Open thread: occupy/more pie

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[msteele]

CNN Reports
"New York (CNN) -- Protests swelled in cities nationwide Friday as police forces struggled to either corral or remove demonstrators flinging trash and refuse from downtown parks and plazas in the latest development of the monthlong Occupy Wall Street movement.

Scores of protesters chanting 'Pay my School Loans', 'Arrest Bushler' and 'Viva La Castro' were arrested in Denver, Seattle, San Diego and New York, with reports of violence were common. CNN iReporters sent in photos and video from "occupy" protests across several American cities.

When interviewed as to why President Bush was being held to account when the current President has had three years to stop the wars, the reply was 'Damn Cheney' In San Diego, CNN affiliate KFMB broadcast images of police detaining demonstrators as they gathered amid tents and tarps strewn about a downtown plaza.

Protesters appeared to refuse to leave the area, crapped in their pants, made anti-semetic remarks about who controlled Wall Street, while sitting in columns atop the plastic tarps and yelling "stay down" as police tried to remove them from the scene. At one point, police used pepper spray to break up the crowd.

"We understand people have a right to protest (but), somewhere along the line, people have a right to conduct business," San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne told CNN affiliate KGTV.

Police eventually removed tents that had been set up by protestors and cleared the area by late afternoon at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars that could have been used for other pressing community needs.

In Denver, authorities said 24 people were arrested as CNN affiliate KMGH broadcast aerial video of police detaining protesters in a downtown section of the city.

Colorado State Police spokesman Mike Baker said the demonstrators could be identified as two distinct groups: The first was a part of what he described as the local "Occupy" group, which maintained close communication with law enforcement during the demonstration. The second, he said, was a more "radical" faction.

"These were the ones (police) came into trouble with today," Baker said.

Most of those arrested in Denver were charged with unlawful conduct on state property, he said, while one other person was charged with simple assault. Another protester was arrested for impeding traffic.

In Seattle, police in riot gear rounded up and arrested 41 demonstrators who gathered in a city park, said police spokeswoman Renee Witt.

In New York , Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne said law officers arrested 14 demonstrators after they sat in roadways to block traffic, overturned trash bins, knocked over a police scooter and hurled bottles."

[sparky]

I took my dogs and went to the one in Olympia. It was friendly, peaceful and on point. The Olympia police--three of them--stood talking quietly and smiling with people who came up to them and thanked them for being there. One speaker was a 90 year old woman who gave a moving talk about her family's life during the Depression and how so much of what is going on now reminds her of that time. Another man walked through the crowd passing out Halloween candy. Little kids were playing on blankets, and the stroller brigades were everywhere.
No one littered, smoked, yelled at anyone or any engaged in other disagreeable behavior. It was an enthusiastic crowd of people and doggies, all gathered together to express their opinions.

The fraction of a percent of people who cause problems are regrettable, but they don't represent the millions who are there protesting peacefully, regardless of how hard the media is trying to gin up a story for their ratings.

[Chucks]

Olympia usually has nice local protests, as long as you can keep the anarchist idiots from Oregon on their side of the bridge. Usually it is the kids from the state hippy college in Olympia. Fine loving people if you can keep the outside influences at bay.
I went to Seattle last night to observe the Flea Party. They did not disappoint. Most of those people would have changed sides for some bud and Big Mac's.
One of the great things about this country is that the scum of the earth has a voice that equals the elite and all those between.

[Puget Sound Blathers]

The fraction of a percent of people who cause problems are regrettable, but they don't represent the millions who are there protesting peacefully, regardless of how hard the media is trying to gin up a story for their ratings.

Posted by: sparky | October 15, 2011 at 02:28 PM

Pay my Student Loans? WTF, why not do it the old fashioned way: join the Army.

Anywhoo, Sparky I am glad to see your point about not taking a few nutters and trying to paint a whole movement. I'll be looking for that same perspective the next time a TeaParty is held and a few nutters are pointed to as representative of the whole movement. The whole, fingers point both ways.

Great points, Chucks. Don't be a stranger to this blog. Many of us missed ya!

[AprilMayJune]

CNN reports 41 arrested in Seattle, while no arrests are reported by KOMO news or the Seattle Times. That is quite a discrepancy.

[sparky]

I checked KING, KIRO TV, and the PI website...nothing mentioned about any arrests in Seattle.
I'm shocked that CNN got it wrong. Shocked, I tell you.

[fremont]

I'm also shocked to hear that no cats (dogs only) were attending the Olympia gathering...they're so insouciant and apolitical, even in the Capitol.

[Puget Sound Blathers]

The ICNN story may suffer from a lack of final edit. Anyway, lots of different numbers floating around. But fairly easy to find the stories on the arrests. Not sure how Sparky missed it.

Washington Posts says that ten were arrested as does the AP.
Here is the WA Post
here
Here is the Seattle Times Story on the arrests

[sparky]

Those arrests were Thursday night. From this morning's paper:

By late Saturday night, at least 150 tents had been set up in Westlake Park, in defiance of the site's 10 p.m. curfew. But there was no show of police force in the area, and no arrests had been made when The Seattle Times went to press. City parks officials left at 10:45 p.m. and said they didn't plan to return until 7 a.m. Sunday.

[StarTheWonderDog]

Thing of it is, the 'occupy'ers' seem to be costing the cities and towns so much that I would think they're defeating their purpose to some degree. Local administrations are straining at the seams with economic woe's...why cause more expenditures when those funds could go to a more worthy cause. I really don't see that they are accomplishing anything. But, I guess boredom begets boorish behavior.

[From the Tower]

Anyone watching the debates? Perry looks like he wants to get into a bitch slapping fight with Romney, Ron Paul is dozing, and Bachmann is being ignored by all the guys. Huntsman was smart and went to New Hampshire to talk to voters. The audience sounds like they were bused in from Saturday Night Wrestling.

[apex]

Perry is hatef^^king Romney with his eyes! Get a room!

[sparky]

Wow. That was some.....debate. How many more of those are they going to do?? I turned to Fox News after it was over and they didn't mention it. Did anyone there watch it?

[Puget Sound Blathers]

Wow. That was some.....debate. How many more of those are they going to do?? I turned to Fox News after it was over and they didn't mention it. Did anyone there watch it?

Posted by: sparky | October 18, 2011 at 07:23 PM

actually I did. romney seems the most reasonable in that group.

[Puget Sound Blathers]

Looks Like Michelle Bachman picked up the Wayne Newton Endorsement tonight:
"'I am an entertainer but first of all, I'm an American and second of all, I'm a Nevadan, and third of all, I will support this beautiful lady as long as she wants to go'

Anyone heard who has the Louis Prima/Keely Smith lined up?

[KS]

Romney is the slickest and most polished, but seems too status quo IMHO. He was too much about "let me speak" after he did most of the talking- the ploy got old after a while.

Cain is the only one who is bold enough to come up with a tax reform plan - seems to me its a framework and not finished product, but everyone is taking pot shots at it like its going to be voted on and he defended it. However, it is up to Mr. Cain to further explain this plan with more detail and offer flexibility because it needs some work according to consensus of the economic community.

These debates are getting to be a waste of time and the moderators don't lend much to it. Anderson Cooper doesn't cut it, nor did Brian Williams. The best one may have been Charlie Rose.

[Johnny Sombrerro]

I don't like his Nien Nien Nien plan. Anderson needed to cut off candidates who went well over their limit.

[KS]

He'll need to dump the sales tax, raise the flat tax and corporate tax up to 15% according to his economic advisors.

[Corporate Suit]

No black man will be nominated by the Republican party... at least in this decade. There are no black Republicans that are "ready." That includes Mr. Cain, for obvious reasons.

[Puget Sound Blathers]

great points, KS.
at this point it seems that Romney is the 'safe choice' that will go out and do 'okay' in the general election but probably lose in a close race. Cain is the 'wild card' that would probably lose but has the potential to catch lightening and run the table.

[Radio Queen]

Well, Corporate Suit, as it turns out, there were no black democrats "ready" in 2008 either.

[Puget Sound Blathers]

Yes Corporate Suit, could you name the Black Democrats ready in 2008 besides Pres Obama?
I'm sure you could readily name at least 3, right?

[sparky]

Saw this today!

Dance like you have health insurance
Love like you have a right to privacy
Work like your money wont be spent on wars and corporate welfare.

Hah...

[Puget Sound Blathers]

Hey, anyone want to comment why this didn't seem to be a problem with the TeaParty bunch?

It’s a safe house from the sex fiends.
Zuccotti Park has become so overrun by sexual predators attacking women in the night that organizers felt compelled to set up a female-only sleeping tent yesterday to keep the sickos away.
The large, metal-framed “safety tent” -- which will be guarded by an all-female patrol -- can accommodate as many as 18 people and will be used during the day for women-only meetings, said Occupy Wall Street organizers.
“This is all about safety in numbers,” said Becky Wartell, 24, a protester from Portland, Maine.

here, not so safe. why is that? This is a link to a page on this website.

Read more:

[Puget Sound Blathers]

The OWS has a risk of losing its message amongst the anarchist/rapist/rabble that have been invading the genuine folks who want change.

Maybe that 'more pie' was misunderstood?