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  • Talker's Magazine
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  • The Advocate
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  • Media Matters
    Documentation of right-wing media in video, audio and text.
  • Orcinus
    home of David Neiwert, freelance investigative journalist and author who writes extensively about far-right hate groups
  • Hominid Views
    "People, politics, science, and whatnot" Darryl is a statistician who fights imperialism with empiricism, gives good links and wry commentary.
  • Jesus' General
    An 11 on the Manly Scale of Absolute Gender, a 12 on the Heavenly Scale of the 10 Commandments and a 6 on the earthly scale of the Immaculately Groomed.
  • Howie in Seattle
    Howie Martin is the Abe Linkin' of progressive Seattle.
  • Streaming Radio Guide
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  • The Naked Loon
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    "informs, challenges, soothes and/or berates, and does so with a pleasing vocal cadence and unmatched enunciation. When you listen to IPR, integrity washes over you like lava, with the pleasing familiarity of a medium-roast coffee and a sensible muffin."
  • The Maddow Blog
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  • Northwest Broadcasters
    The AM, FM, TV and digital broadcasters of Northwest Washington, USA and Southwest British Columbia, Canada. From Kelso, WA to the northern tip of Vancouver Island, BC - call letters, formats, slogans, networks, technical data, and transmitter maps. Plus "recent" news.
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    The Internet's chronicle of media decay.
  • The Moderate Voice
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  • News Hounds
    Dogged dogging of Fox News by a team who seems to watch every minute of the cable channel so you don't have to.
  • HistoryLink
    Fun to read and free encyclopedia of Washington State history. Founded by the late Walt Crowley, it's an indispensable tool and entertainment source for history wonks and surfers alike.

right-wing blogs we like

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    inexhaustible Drudgery of NW conservative news
  • The Radio Equalizer
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April 12, 2011

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Truth

This blog has become tired. Just like the chit chatty Ross and Burbank, Monson and Goddessman, Ron and Don (oh God)...

I honestly think it's time for a complete overhaul of KIRO. Out with old and in with the new. There is nothing compelling for me to turn the station on.

Erictheeditor

Thanks to Blathering Michael for this blog. It takes a lot of energy to put out this stuff everyday. Michael deserves to have a life, too.

At least KIRO is trying to make using local hosts work. I admit the only thing I listen to is Ross and Burbank and that's only when Thom Hartmann is in a commercial break.

Speaking of Thom, he wasn't his usual calm self when he got back from Germany. Definitely uncharacteristic bad language and he hung up on a conservative guest he was interviewing.
Don't know if the political trends in U.S. are getting to him after spending time in Europe or he's heating up his program to compete with Big Eddie.

Finally, did you see the story about the company that outsourced jobs to a foreign country? However, they are having problems because the workers are being paid so much less and the working conditions are also so much worse.
The company is IKEA in Sweden, which outsourced jobs to a southern U.S. town.

Radio Queen

No matter what your political leanings, ya gotta love Jon Stewart. He skewers both sides with such finesse that I'm laughing even when I'm not supposed to...

Joe

I agree with Truth, no reason to listen to KIRO anymore. I've been listening to KLAY 1180 AM in the afternoons lately.

I used to like Dave Ross, but it seems to me that his show has been going downhill for a long time. I wonder what his ratings are these days?

KS

I like Jon Stewart when he gives both sides their deserved skewering. I have been listening to KLAY in the afternoons once in a while also - Jerry Doyle is interesting. I'd like to hear how he goes off about Pres BO's speech today.

KS

Point of clarity - I'd like to hear how Stewart goes off about Pres BO's speech today.

Puget Sound

spot on, KS

of course some of the folks here only like it when stewart hits repubs.

joanie

Curious, KS. Why do you think Stewart will go off on Obama's speech?


of course some of the folks here . . .

There you go again. Talking about posters instead of the speech.

AprilMayJune

Some days, John Stewart seems like the most "real" news show. Sad state of affairs regarding news reporting in the USA.

sparky

I heard him, Eric. Later he was very apologetic and was going to call the guest and apologize. Thom has a good heart and he does take things personally sometimes.

joanie

My planning time at school is 9:50 and I always try to catch a bit of Thom. It is hard to turn him off when the kids return.

joanie

I don't know what motivated this sudden blast of courage from Obama, but thank god for it. Randi has been beside herself tonight with "I told you so" and I'm suddenly thinking that the bright boy on the proverbial block - Mr. Eddie Haskell himself (Paul Ryan) - might be in a for a tad take down.

One can hope anyway.

joanie

Michael's recent post - the one after this one - reminded me of one of my own: Norton: GO TO HELL!

Chucks

I was watching Norton babel on during the debate in Congress leading up to last weeks vote. That woman is a complete waste of oxygen.
As for Obama's likely empty rhetoric, we shall see. Just like when Reagan was POTUS, tax hikes and budget cuts were promised. Tip O'Neil did deliver on the tax hikes.
Knock Ryan as you must, but the guy stepped up and put out a budget proposal. Something the Congress could not get done last year. Something that Obama would never consider if he were not getting his ass kicked in the polls.
Hopefully the Tea Party can put enough pressure on the exalted elected officials that true budget reform is enacted. They have done a great job of inspiring government thus far.

KS

In short, Mr. Obama disdains people who make more than ($250K/yr.) because they are successful and do not want government assistance.

The rest of his speech was smoke, mirrors and blind partisanship. What was seen as courage by him from the left came across as demagogery and arrogance by the rest of us.

Coiler

all 3 of you.

Erictheeditor

Most of us are middle class and have sacrificed during this Great Recession. We are going to have to sacrifice more to get the budget deficit down.

The poor have probably sacrificed the most during the recession and will suffer the greatest in getting the deficit down as Republicans try to cut programs for widows and orphans.

Conservatives and tea partiers--Can you think of another group that should share in the sacrifice?

Hint--It's the group that has benefited the most from living in this great nation (especially for last few decades)

Jovita is backed up again

Rich people--in the words of Rush Limbaugh--"don't DO recessions" and have no intention of sacrificing anything.

Jovita is backed up again

It is no longer a situation between Left and Right, Liberal and Conservative, Democrat and Republican.
We are at the point where it is between those who have money and do not intend on sharing it, and those who do not, and have few ways of getting any.

Jovita is backed up again

This is FABBBBBBULOUS!

Tommy008

a bill clearly aimed at the Joanies of our state was introduced into the state legislature in Olympia today which would require that teachers with the lowest performance reviews be put at the head off the line for layoffs and dismissals. bwhaahahahahaaha does anyone doubt where the Joanus stands on this bill?bwahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha

Chucks

Wouldn't that be funny. Seattle Schools cans the 60 year old bat for a twenty something, but inspired youngster.
I like it Tommy008. Thanks for the warm thought.

sparky

Wishful thinking you guys...joanie happens to have won awards for her teaching.

We were talking about this at school today with a Univ. professor who was making a bi-weekly visit to a student teacher. He complained that the new "breed" of young teacher does not have the work ethic of the older teachers who mentor his students. He found they arrive no earlier than required and often go home early. His mentor teachers have complained that the young teachers call in sick if they just don't feel like working that day. Most quit before they have taught in their own classrooms 5 years.
Joanie works late into the night--notice what time of the evening she often posts. Nobody else is there. I would love to see either of YOU try to handle a class of first graders. You wouldn't be able to do it.

Puget Sound

what awards has Joanie won?

Chucks

Nobel Peace Prize?

Chucks

Sorry Sparky. I couldn't resist. Obama getting that devalued awards with the same fervor that I questioned military awards after Kerry's phoniness in Viet Nam.
Unfair to all that really deserved them.
I would have loved to have been a first grade teacher. I'd have been good at it.

sparky

Sorry chucks, there is a difference between liking to be around kids like your grandkids, and dealing with parents in a way that won't end up with your butt in court, meeting the needs of 30 diverse kids simultaneously, planning activities that change about every 20-30 minutes for 8 hours a day, keeping them on task and engaged, satisfying your principal, dealing with your own discipline because you have no back up from the administration and which most likely will end up with a parent screaming at you on the phone that their kid would never DO that, dealing with the politics of a school environment, correcting a box load of papers every night, writing lesson plans for 6-8 different subjects for each of 180 days of instruction, dealing with kids who have learning disabilities and making sure they get discussed at an after-school meeting with various learning specialists, buying your supplies out of your own pocket,paying for your professional development classes out of your own pocket to keep your license current, buying breakfast for a hungry kid out of your own pocket, and then having the pleasure of reading the letters to the editor and on blogs about how much you suck and don't deserve to be paid more than someone who works at McDonalds.

KS

Rich people--in the words of Rush Limbaugh--"don't DO recessions" and have no intention of sacrificing anything.

Posted by: Jovita is backed up again | April 14, 2011 at 01:08 PM

My take is that you twisted his words deliberately to arouse the ieftwingnuts - show us documented proof of that quote. The 46% of people who don't pay any taxes are the ones who won't sacrifice anything and don't have any problem taking handouts from other taxpayers who pay taxes, in other words those who do that are bums.

Jovita not backed up tonight!

KS I know you will find a way to deny it hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Coiler

How can anyone twist the words of Missouri Fats? really

joanie

JOVITA - That was awesome! I hope everyone checked it out. Your first awesome link I mean.

Listened to ten minutes of Randi and shut her off. I do not like being yelled at. She is super impressed with our leaders newest rhetoric.

Turned on Sirota for a dose of reality. He crunched numbers and did some thinking and came up less than impressed. Has the left forgotten what Obama said the first go-round? Let's revise Bush's failed attempt at ages-old wisdom: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. A saying even more memorable because of Bush's ability to screw it up.

So then I returned to Randi on the way home from school and we're talking Donald Trump. Okay. Until I heard her ego lose control of itself, again, and trumpet: "everyone was calling me a traitor!" The rhetoric we heard last night is proof now that she was right all along and Obama is working miracles.

As Sirota said, he's starting from the position of increasing revenue one-third and cutting programs two-thirds. And defense takes the smalled whack of all. I wonder where we will end up if that's his starting position?

So, Randi is again silent and I'm going to listen to the last hour of Sirota this morning. What would I do with Sirota?


Awards? Yes, several. But I'm not telling bumpkins like you. Women who succeed get plaques, dinner with sports figures (mine was with now deposed Sonics general manager Bob somebody? - back in the early days) and one other big one which I will not tell you about because you could find me online since few first-grade teachers get it. It, too, was another sports plaque and assembly celebration.

Best one? Free computer back in the day when one of my kids nominated me for Class Act teacher. Smallest but I got on TV! Way long time ago. The most recent? Three years ago.

BTW, I posted a letter from a man who served with Kerry and supported every detail of the event and his deserving of the award. Do you just hate everyone who tells the truth, Chucks? Are you so hateful of anybody on the left that you take their meritorious service away from them because money starts a rumor that helps someone win an election? That is squeaky evil. Especially for an armchair cheerleader of war like you. Really, really, squeaky evil.

joanie

How's that for "not telling you bumpkins . . . " I'm laughing. It was kind of fun to toot my horn a bit! Thanks, Sparky.

BTW, Sparky's got herself something to brag about as well. On You Tube no less. But, that's her story if she cared to share and I bet she doesn't because it would identify her as well.

sparky

you're right,,I don't :)

joanie

You guys on the right really should make up your minds: Lindsey Graham Has Meltdown Over Earmark Cut In Budget Deal

Hey, KS: Lindsey wants his federal dollars for infrastructure. I thought earmarks were a non-starter? Oh, I forgot. That's just for the rest of us.

joanie

BTW, chucks, I posted this article a long time ago on BW.

"But those accusations came from those who served alongside him in Vietnam.

No, those who served alongside of Kerry supported him. But you choose to selectively believe a bunch of bullies who were angry that he spoke out against the atrocities of the war. And those bullies would say anything to get revenge. That's what bullies do.


THE TRUTH:

www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-0408220342aug22,1,2523679.story
chicagotribune.com
FEB. 28, 1969: ON THE DONG CUNG RIVER
`This is what I saw that day'

By William B. Rood

Chicago Tribune

August 22, 2004
Click here to find out more!

There were three swift boats on the river that day in Vietnam more than 35 years ago--three officers and 15 crew members. Only two of those officers remain to talk about what happened on February 28, 1969.

One is John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate who won a Silver Star for what happened on that date. I am the other.

For years, no one asked about those events. But now they are the focus of skirmishing in a presidential election with a group of swift boat veterans and others contending that Kerry didn't deserve the Silver Star for what he did on that day, or the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts he was awarded for other actions.

Many of us wanted to put it all behind us--the rivers, the ambushes, the killing. Ever since that time, I have refused all requests for interviews about Kerry's service--even those from reporters at the Chicago Tribune, where I work.

But Kerry's critics, armed with stories I know to be untrue, have charged that the accounts of what happened were overblown. The critics have taken pains to say they're not trying to cast doubts on the merit of what others did, but their version of events has splashed doubt on all of us. It's gotten harder and harder for those of us who were there to listen to accounts we know to be untrue, especially when they come from people who were not there.

Even though Kerry's own crew members have backed him, the attacks have continued, and in recent days Kerry has called me and others who were with him in those days, asking that we go public with our accounts.

I can't pretend those calls had no effect on me, but that is not why I am writing this. What matters most to me is that this is hurting crewmen who are not public figures and who deserved to be honored for what they did. My intent is to tell the story here and to never again talk publicly about it.

I was part of the operation that led to Kerry's Silver Star. I have no firsthand knowledge of the events that resulted in his winning the Purple Hearts or the Bronze Star.

But on Feb. 28, 1969, I was officer in charge of PCF-23, one of three swift boats--including Kerry's PCF-94 and Lt. j.g. Donald Droz's PCF-43--that carried Vietnamese regional and Popular Force troops and a Navy demolition team up the Dong Cung, a narrow tributary of the Bay Hap River, to conduct a sweep in the area.

The approach of the noisy 50-foot aluminum boats, each driven by two huge 12-cylinder diesels and loaded down with six crew members, troops and gear, was no secret.

Ambushes were a virtual certainty, and that day was no exception.

Instructions from Kerry

The difference was that Kerry, who had tactical command of that particular operation, had talked to Droz and me beforehand about not responding the way the boats usually did to an ambush.

We agreed that if we were not crippled by the initial volley and had a clear fix on the location of the ambush, we would turn directly into it, focusing the boats' twin .50-caliber machine guns on the attackers and beaching the boats. We told our crews about the plan.

The Viet Cong in the area had come to expect that the heavily loaded boats would lumber on past an ambush, firing at the entrenched attackers, beaching upstream and putting troops ashore to sweep back down on the ambush site. Often, they were long gone by the time the troops got there.

The first time we took fire--the usual rockets and automatic weapons--Kerry ordered a "turn 90" and the three boats roared in on the ambush. It worked. We routed the ambush, killing three of the attackers. The troops, led by an Army adviser, jumped off the boats and began a sweep, which killed another half dozen VC, wounded or captured others and found weapons, blast masks and other supplies used to stage ambushes.

Meanwhile, Kerry ordered our boat to head upstream with his, leaving Droz's boat at the first site.

It happened again, another ambush. And again, Kerry ordered the turn maneuver, and again it worked. As we headed for the riverbank, I remember seeing a loaded B-40 launcher pointed at the boats. It wasn't fired as two men jumped up from their spider holes.

We called Droz's boat up to assist us, and Kerry, followed by one member of his crew, jumped ashore and chased a VC behind a hooch--a thatched hut--maybe 15 yards inland from the ambush site. Some who were there that day recall the man being wounded as he ran. Neither I nor Jerry Leeds, our boat's leading petty officer with whom I've checked my recollection of all these events, recalls that, which is no surprise. Recollections of those who go through experiences like that frequently differ.

With our troops involved in the sweep of the first ambush site, Richard Lamberson, a member of my crew, and I also went ashore to search the area. I was checking out the inside of the hooch when I heard gunfire nearby.

Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man he chased behind the hooch. He also had picked up a loaded B-40 rocket launcher, which we took back to our base in An Thoi after the operation.

John O'Neill, author of a highly critical account of Kerry's Vietnam service, describes the man Kerry chased as a "teenager" in a "loincloth." I have no idea how old the gunner Kerry chased that day was, but both Leeds and I recall that he was a grown man, dressed in the kind of garb the VC usually wore.

The man Kerry chased was not the "lone" attacker at that site, as O'Neill suggests. There were others who fled. There was also firing from the tree line well behind the spider holes and at one point, from the opposite riverbank as well. It was not the work of just one attacker.

Our initial reports of the day's action caused an immediate response from our task force headquarters in Cam Ranh Bay.

Congratulatory message

Known over radio circuits by the call sign "Latch," then-Capt. and now retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, the task force commander, fired off a message congratulating the three swift boats, saying at one point that the tactic of charging the ambushes was a "shining example of completely overwhelming the enemy" and that it "may be the most efficacious method of dealing with small numbers of ambushers."

Hoffmann has become a leading critic of Kerry's and now says that what the boats did on that day demonstrated Kerry's inclination to be impulsive to a fault.

Our decision to use that tactic under the right circumstances was not impulsive but was the result of discussions well beforehand and a mutual agreement of all three boat officers.

It was also well within the aggressive tradition that was embraced by the late Adm. Elmo Zumwalt, then commander of U.S. Naval Forces, Vietnam. Months before that day in February, a fellow boat officer, Michael Bernique, was summoned to Saigon to explain to top Navy commanders why he had made an unauthorized run up the Giang Thanh River, which runs along the Vietnam-Cambodia border. Bernique, who speaks French fluently, had been told by a source in Ha Tien at the mouth of the river that a VC tax collector was operating upstream.

Ignoring the prohibition against it, Bernique and his crew went upstream and routed the VC, pursuing and killing several.

Instead of facing disciplinary action as he had expected, Bernique was given the Silver Star, and Zumwalt ordered other swifts, which had largely patrolled coastal waters, into the rivers.

The decision sent a clear message, underscored repeatedly by Hoffmann's congratulatory messages, that aggressive patrolling was expected and that well-timed, if unconventional, tactics like Bernique's were encouraged.

What we did on Feb. 28, 1969, was well in line with the tone set by our top commanders.

Zumwalt made that clear when he flew down to our base at An Thoi off the southern tip of Vietnam to pin the Silver Star on Kerry and assorted Bronze Stars and commendation medals on the rest of us.

Error in citation

My Bronze Star citation, signed by Zumwalt, praised the charge tactic we used that day, saying the VC were "caught completely off guard."

There's at least one mistake in that citation. It incorrectly identifies the river where the main action occurred, a reminder that such documents were often done in haste and sometimes authored for their signers by staffers. It's a cautionary note for those trying to piece it all together. There's no final authority on something that happened so long ago--not the documents and not even the strained recollections of those of us who were there.

But I know that what some people are saying now is wrong. While they mean to hurt Kerry, what they're saying impugns others who are not in the public eye.

Men like Larry Lee, who was on our bow with an M-60 machine gun as we charged the riverbank, Kenneth Martin, who was in the .50-caliber gun tub atop our boat, and Benjamin Cueva, our engineman, who was at our aft gun mount suppressing the fire from the opposite bank.

Wayne Langhoffer and the other crewmen on Droz's boat went through even worse on April 12, 1969, when they saw Droz killed in a brutal ambush that left PCF-43 an abandoned pile of wreckage on the banks of the Duong Keo River. That was just a few months after the birth of his only child, Tracy.

The survivors of all these events are scattered across the country now.

Jerry Leeds lives in a tiny Kansas town where he built and sold a successful printing business. He owns a beautiful home with a lawn that sweeps to the edge of a small lake, which he also owns. Every year, flights of purple martins return to the stately birdhouses on the tall poles in his back yard.

Cueva, recently retired, has raised three daughters and is beloved by his neighbors for all the years he spent keeping their cars running. Lee is a senior computer programmer in Kentucky, and Lamberson finished a second military career in the Army.

With the debate over that long-ago day in February, they're all living that war another time.

Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune"


This man served along side of Kerry - not three swiftboats away nor in the next harbor.

Kerry and Rood The article was removed a long time ago.

As for being a good first-grade teacher?

Chucks, even first graders deserve truth. It isn't charm that makes a good teacher. It is the ability to provide an inspiring and unrelenting thirst for knowledge and understanding. If you aren't prepared to question propaganda yourself, you could never teach children to be independent critical thinkers. They deserve better. I think you'd be surprised how smart six-and-seven-year olds are these days.

Your comment makes me wonder what you think teaching is?

KS

Limbaugh and Lindsey Graham don't speak for me. Jovita - when you do sound bytes - you are twisting what anyone says - nice try but sound bytes don't pass the smell test. So why didn't you cut to the YouTube in the first place and let us be the judge ? Unless the GOP does not raise Defense spending, their budget plan has a big chink in the armor. The recommendations of the bi-partisan debt commission (Simpson-Bowles) were a good start. Ryan's budget was a good stab, but still missing some pieces that the debt commission had.

Taxes should be raised when economic times are better to get revenue, but the tax code must also be overhauled/revised so that more people have to pay taxes than barely over 50% that do. I stand by what I said; "The 46% of people who don't pay any taxes are the ones who won't sacrifice anything and don't have any problem taking handouts from other taxpayers who pay taxes, in other words those who do that are bums."

 Radio Queen

Nice conversation Joanie and Sparky are having with each other...like a little tea party...oops, I mean coffee clatch.

Sorry, Joanie, but the Rush quote in your post above is a bit misleading. In listening to your proof, he spoke solely for himself..."I will not sacrifice....I won't participate in a recession..." He did not once speak for anyone else or generalize that all rich people do or should feel the same way.

Now, before you get all fired up and call me a right-wing idiot, lett me add that I'm not a Rush fan and I don't listen to him, but he's entitled to his own selfish opinions about himself. I think tax increases on the wealthy and tax code reform to force rich corporations to pay their share of taxes are needed--but they must go hand-in-hand with reduced spending. Neither one on its own will fix the problem, but maybe doing both will.

Tommy008

I take it the you must be in favor of the bill then right, Joanus? You would certainly, in the interest of fairness, want all your supposed hard work and excellence in the classroom ( claimed by Joanus and Sparky- not verified by a third party) to be the deciding factor when they're deciding who to fire or layoff first, rather than the total number of days , weeks and years you've plopped your butt into the teacher's chair .....yeah right.... i think we all know what her position is on the bill/...........

Tommy008

"bumpkins"....we ain't no bunpkins....i'll show you some bumpkins.........Hillbilly Number one- "well, we least require that you get your goddamn ass up in them woods...Hillbilly number Two -"Don't move, or I'll blow your dadblamed balls off"...Hillbilly number one- "now lets see you drop them pants"-...Ned Beatty- "drop?" - Hillbilly number one (huge shiteating grin on his face)- Just take 'em right off!"....Hillbilly number one-(holding knife to Jon Voight's face- "Have you ever had your balls cut off, you fucking ape?"..... now them's some bumpkins...ain't no bumpkins 'round here....

joanie

Nice conversation Joanie and Sparky are having...

Conversation? Are you envious?

the Rush quote in your post above...

I didn't post a Rush quote.


joanie

Regarding spending Queen: there's no law that says you have to cut spending or raise revenue. Both are choices. As a teacher and a creative, flexible thinker, I know that.

If you are over spending you have two choices: quit spending so much or get another job. In other words, raise revenue. That's what we should be doing. Raising revenue to Clinton era levels or having let the tax cuts expire would have changed our current landscape significantly.

And as for cutting spending, I haven't seen a single liberal on this blog argue that it can't be cut. Defense is out of control. Cut it.

Anything else?

No one likes a whiner, Sparky

I wish that Sparky would stop whining about how hard her job is. If you don't like it, let someone else have at it. Lots of qualified people who would dearly love to work a job with good pay, summers off, and retirement.

And if Joanus is having to work late, that sounds like time management issues on her part. Judging by her postings, she's too busy listening to the radio and not concentrating at work. Get someone in their who can 'git her done'!

Tommy is correct. Sparky and Joanus make fun of him not wanting to share his wealth management secrets but they won't reveal all these so called 'honors' and 'awards' that they have accrued over the years in their profession.
No one cares who you are, so get over yourselves.

The Anti-Dori

Nothing like Tommy to support Tommy. Can't you change your voice, Tommy. You're a writer, aren't you?

BTW, my mother was a teacher. Yes, anybody could have collected her paycheck - meager as it was in those days - and taken summers off and got retirement. But, first they would have been required to do all the things that Sparky itemized above. Ah, the difference between reacting emotionally and thinking. I've always been grateful to mom for raising a thinker.

sparky

Hey No One, Joanie and I love our jobs. Your inability to read with comprehension and think analytically about what I said proves my point that you would not be able to do our jobs. Especially when you discovered you don't get the "summer off."

Puget Sound

A good teacher is also a good student.
I'll let you be the judge...


Sarah

Chucks, KS and puget sound why are you still posting here thought you said you were leaving this blog. Whats the matter not getting enough attention elsewhere. Joanie and sparky rule here so you better suck up like good little boys.

joanie

Puget Sound, you don't have to "let us" be the judge. We decide that. But continue your patronizing . . . it leaves me cold.

Where's Queen? I expected an answer. Queen seems to have an element of reflection and I'd like her to amplify.

Queen, I'm not sure if you lean conservative or liberal. My guess is conservative. So, do you think we liberals should support right-of-center Obama or get a new candidate? Just curious.

joanie

Puget Sound, why don't you spend some time on The Economic Effects of the Ryan Plan: Assuming the Answer?

And get back to us.

joanie

Homework for KS

Coiler for John Kyl the Lyr.

Can you imagine how the Neocons would’ve hammered Bill Clinton if he had claimed that 90% of the business of the NRA was giving free guns to school kids for good grades? Then if his press secr3etary had said, in essence – so what?

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      Multi-format: news and nearly all local talk. This is where classic KIRO AM news talk radio went... hopefully, not to die. The home of Dave Ross & Luke Burbank, Dori Monson, Ron & Don, Frank Shiers, Bill Radke, Linda Thomas, Tony Miner and George Noory.
    • KUOW FM 94.9
      Seattle's foremost public radio news and talk.
    • KVI am 570 KHz
      Visit the burnt-out husk of one of the seminal right-wing talkers in all the land. Here's where once trilled the reactionary tones of Rush Limbaugh, John Carlson, Kirby Wilbur, Mike Siegel, Peter Weissbach, Floyd Brown, Dinky Donkey, and Bryan Suits. Now it's Top 40 hits from the '60's & '70's aimed at that diminishing crowd who still remembers them and can still hear.
    • KTTH am 770 KHz
      Right wing home of local, and a whole bunch of syndicated righties such as Glennn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medved, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Lars Larsony, and for an hour a day: live & local David Boze.
    • KPTK am 1090 KHz
      Syndicated liberal talk. Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes, Norman Goldman fill in the large hole to the left on Northwest radio dial.
    • KLFE AM 1590 kHz
      Syndicated right-wing 2nd stringers like Mark Levin, Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Prager, Dennis Miller and Hugh Hewitt inhabit this timid-voiced neighbor honker for your radio enjoyment (unless you're behind something large like Costco).
    • KOMOAM
      News, traffic, Ken Schram and John Carlson.
    • Washington State Radio Stations
      Comprehensive list of every danged AM & FM station on the dial.
    • KKOL am 1300 KHz
      Once a rabid right-wing talker, except for Lou Dobbs, it's all business....