Blatherwatch, legal division, received this moments ago:
‘Voting Service’
Monday, October 25, 2010 11:06AM
From Ammons, Dave
To: Blatherwatc[email protected]
Cc: Blinn, Katie; Handy, Nick; Zylstra, Brian
Please take down your blog post on Voting Service. I assume this is satire, [emphasis ours] but our Elections Division reminds that you could be charged with a crime:
This is illegal:
RCW 29A.84.610 Deceptive, incorrect vote recording.
A person is guilty of a gross misdemeanor who knowingly: (1) Deceives any voter in recording his or her vote by providing incorrect or misleading recording information or by providing faulty election equipment or records; or (2) Records the vote of any voter in a manner other than as designated by the voter. Such a gross misdemeanor is punishable to the same extent as a gross misdemeanor that is punishable under RCW 9A.20.021.
We are pretty sensitive about talk of ballot selling, etc. And of course the ballot would never be counted, because the signature would not match the one on file for the voter. But attempted vote fraud can be penalized by a prison sentence and a big fine.
Wow.
We're not sure how we're responding to this quite yet, but it makes bigger points: State election officials are so sensitive about voter fraud, they're threatened even by what they admit is satire.
(And, of course, it is satire, and we always have to label our meager attempts at humor as such; but because they're so puerile, many of our sophisticated readers simply don't get the so-called jokes. If you haven't read the offending one, it's here, another in a long line of tepid and sad BW satires (here, here, here, and here) that miss the mark, keeps BlatherWatch in the farm leagues of punditry and makes sure no one really take us seriously).
But this really shows what total bullshit is the Republican rhetoric about voter fraud... especially in this state. We have clean elections, and one of the reason why we do is because the Secretary of State's office is so touchy about the subject. They don't tolerate even a joke they themselves acknowledge if it's about voter fraud.
Reality doesn't stifle meme-ification of the voter fraud myth. The complaint against us was sent in by a rightie blogger whose political agenda requires he not get the joke. (Or maybe it's the humor deficit disorder so many conservatives suffer).
Voter fraud is a McIssue Republicans invented some 20 years ago to help suppress Democratic votes. After the Washington State's problems with the 2004 gubernatorial election, (in which the Republican local federal prosecutor and a GOP-handpicked found no significant fraud) Secretary of State Reed (himself a Republican) has spent years improving the system.
That's how Blatherwatch ran afoul: The new reforms created the That's Not Funny Commission (TNFC) which weighs humor vs. the common good and brings down the awful boot of Reed consigliere, Dave Ammons when the jokes endanger the citizenry.
At this point, we're prayerful.
Sparky, Have I deleted any of your post? If I did it’s because the only post I delete are filled with foul and abusive language. Did you post such a comment? And I’ve been known to ask for poster to resubmit said post without the harsh words.
Posted by: G'Willie | October 26, 2010 at 10:02 PM
G'Willie/George Bentley: Why haven't your statist cops moved against this piece of shit blog and made him take the post down? The Sec of State is even a Republican!
Maybe it is because the post is satire protected by the First Amendment.
Posted by: Regime changer | October 26, 2010 at 10:40 PM
And Pete, I really don't care how you try to twist what I said. What Sharkansky did was demonstrate that there were a large number of illegal votes from his detailed analysis of the 2004 Governor's election. That was not even part of the main argument and couldn't have been.
And KS, I really don't care what you or Sharkansky did. What you and Shark DID NOT was show that at a percentage, the irregularities in KC were not higher than any other county (some had higher percentages).
So Shark was technically right. KC had a "large number". But why the higher total number? Higher population. DUH!
In fact, you should go back and read the Conservative Chelan judge's decision (which we know wakes you up in cold sweats).
He said the Republicans' claims of fraud were not supported by any evidence. He rebuffed their statistical proposal for subtracting invalid votes from the candidates, calling it scientifically inadequate.
Not only does he point this out, but he also says the following - the death nail to Rossi:
"An election such as this should not be overturned because one judge picks a number and applies a proportional deduction analysis," he said. "To do so would constitute the ultimate of judicial egotism and activism."
Ouch. Stings don't it. Conservative pet cause - judicial egotism and activism - used by a conservative judge against a conservative failed candidate.
Let's here it again, just because the truth feels so good this time:
"To do so would constitute the ultimate of judicial egotism and activism."
Now think of that, and go weave some baskets with you-know-who. He's got a huge decision to make
Posted by: Mercifurious | October 26, 2010 at 11:22 PM
sales tax deduction (if it exists for wa):
deduction reduces owed by only your marginal rate. it's not a full 100% credit
Posted by: 123 | October 26, 2010 at 11:44 PM
G Whizz, in order for you to delete a post from me, I would have had to write something. Before Sunday, I didn't know you existed.
Posted by: sparky | October 27, 2010 at 06:00 AM
Mercifurious - that is all water under the bridge - based on the evidence presented, Judge Bridges made the correct ruling. I am no fan of the WSRP.
Posted by: KS | October 27, 2010 at 09:50 AM
For 6 years, Dems were "conspiracy theorists" for reporting touch-screen vote flips. Now, the GOP wants to sue over them.
Posted by: sparky | October 28, 2010 at 08:38 PM
Before Sunday, I didn't know you existed.
Well sparky, how would you know whether or not I deleted post on my blog, oh you didn't you just lied!!!
Posted by: G'Willie | October 29, 2010 at 08:16 PM
For 6 years, Dems were "conspiracy theorists" for reporting touch-screen vote flips. Now, the GOP wants to sue over them.
Posted by: sparky | October 28, 2010 at 08:38 PM
Sparkles - That's only half of the story. The other half is that the voting machines in Clark County Nevada have a service contract with SEIU, the progressive marxists who are in the tank for the White House - like the fox watching over the hen house. Reid is trying like hell to steal this election, but since this has been publicized - the chances of this succeeding will hopefully decrease. Isn't each voting machine now required to have a paper trail ?
Posted by: KS | October 29, 2010 at 08:28 PM
This makes Blam's electioneering prank look tame.
here
Up in Alaska, they play rough.
Posted by: Puget Sound | October 30, 2010 at 06:23 AM
KS
You know Sparkles specializes in giving half the story. Because when the whole story is told it tends to discredit her point.
Context and perspective take a back seat to a little snark.
Sparkles should be angry that any vote be tampered with and if it had been Sharron Angle's name popping up and say Haliburton had the servicing contract she would be up in arms.
And rightly so. The difference is that both you and I would have been up in arms about it irrespective of Party.
Posted by: Puget Sound | October 30, 2010 at 06:35 AM
Right....
Posted by: sparky | October 30, 2010 at 08:33 AM
Hey Sparkles
What say you about Bill Maher's comment on his show regarding the muslim faith.
"Those who accuse the once libertarian Bill Maher of becoming too much of a liberal apologist might want to clean their ears. Maher made a Juan Williams-esque confession on his program when he apprehensively noted that Mohammed has just become the most popular baby name in Britain. “Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that?” Maher asked his panel. “Because I am. And it’s not because of the race, it’s because of the religion. I don’t have to apologize, do I, for not wanting the Western world to be taken over by Islam in 300 years?”
Posted by: Puget Sound | October 30, 2010 at 08:40 AM
Bill Maher doesn't have the same contract Juan did with NPR, plus Williams has made a series of stupid remarks "Michelle Obama looks like Stokely Carmichael in a dress"
It was time to let him go.
Posted by: Coiler | October 30, 2010 at 09:00 AM
Bill Maher also lied about Obama's approval ratings going up 15 points after Obamacare was passed. It went up a few points for a few days, then it continued going down and was below 50% in the following weeks.
Maher is sometimes sharp, but he is a partisan hack who doesn't care about the truth - if it makes his side look bad, so he becomes a lieing sack of shit. Malevolent is a word that describes him. No, he doesn't have a contract like Williams did, but he is a comedian kinda sorta (and like Joy Behar an angry one at that).
Coil -Do you have documented proof that Wiilliams made that comment "Michelle Obama looks like Stokely Carmichael in a dress" ? I'd bet that it was either falsely quoted or taken out of context - first time I have heard that.
Posted by: KS | October 30, 2010 at 09:33 AM
yeah, can't have dissenting opinions on NPR.
Such weak cheese, Coils.
Actually, the Stokley Carmichael in a dress comment wasn't a 'smear' of the first lady as the media matter types want to claim.
In the give and take of a political discussion he was referencing that Atlantic Magazine Cover. Sometimes in a fast paced discussion you say things without laying out the necessary predicate. You are thinking it, but fail to say it as you are engaged in a give and take discussion.
Posted by: Puget Sound | October 30, 2010 at 09:33 AM
KS
Media Matters -the folks funded in large part by the likes of George Soros- took it and played it up. Sparkles type 'context' if you will.
Labeling it a smear of the First Lady, etc etc.
After getting some emails the NPR Ombudsman reviewed it and found it to be largely a non event.
But its good fodder for the low informational types such as Coils.
Posted by: Puget Sound | October 30, 2010 at 09:38 AM
Speaking of low info--You don't know much about anything, Putz. David Brock founded MM. What did David Brock do in the 90's?
Posted by: Coiler | October 30, 2010 at 09:58 AM
Coils once again resorting to half-truths to fuel his justification - it only makes you and the rest of the usual suspects look petulant and stupid.
Anything stated by Media Matters (a product of George Soros) is either a half truth or a flat out lie ! Their website was established for only one reason, to try and destroy conservatives and Republicans, who are perceived to stand in the way of Soros making billions and you can take that to the bank.
Posted by: KS | October 30, 2010 at 09:59 AM
What did David Brock do in the 90's?
Posted by: Coiler | October 30, 2010 at 09:58 AM
Brock was a Republican operative of some sort in the 90's until he became mentally ill and was consumed by conspiracy theories and the head of media matters. Since then, he has become a serial liar and a despicable human.
Posted by: KS | October 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM
He is the head of Media Matters.
Posted by: KS | October 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM
very good, KS.
The big question for Coils or any of the Usual Suspects is this:
Was David Brock a prevaricator then or is he prevaricator now?
You may see in another year or so when it is convenient, ie the money dries up, that once again Brock will go back the other way.
Posted by: Puget Sound | October 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM
Hey
Read this Brian Baird Wall Street Journal Article on how Pelosi-Dem went astray.
here
Posted by: Puget Sound--for Usual Suspects | October 30, 2010 at 12:10 PM
my favorite quote from Brian Baird on the Healthcare -we have to pass it before we know what's in it- Bill:
""What the hell were we doing voting on this? I had labor groups come to me and insist the bill was so important we couldn't wait to know what was in it," he recalls. "I asked them if they were handed a new union contract and told it was so important they had to agree to it without reading it, would they go along?" They continued to insist he vote for the bill and threatened him with a primary challenger."
Posted by: Puget Sound--for Usual Suspects | October 30, 2010 at 01:10 PM
Good article - Baird did the right thing by not running, but he and other Dems in the House already shot themselves in the foot by voting for Obamacare and Cap and Trade.
He said that the voters should be treated like adults - a major departure from the attitude this Congress has shown - they created a monster and awakened the masses ergo the Tea Party (Teabaggers to the sore losers out there). Too bad if Pelosi wins in her district - she was the biggest problem. It looks like Harry Reid will not weather the avalanche on November 2nd, which would be good news !
Posted by: KS | October 30, 2010 at 01:14 PM
Congressman Baird's admonition to the incoming Republicans is sound advice and I hope they follow it or I'll be voting their keester's out.
" I ask Mr. Baird what he would tell the incoming class of freshmen Republicans if given the chance to address them before the new Congress convenes. He summarized his bottom line:
"Governing isn't as easy as you think. Many of you have taken pledges that are contradictory—to balance the budget and cut taxes, for example. You must be honest about the numbers, since our annual deficit now exceeds all discretionary spending combined. If you set as your goal to roll back the size of government, you have an obligation to answer the tough questions and show real courage, not just appeal to ideology. Treat the voters like adults."
Posted by: Puget Sound--for Usual Suspects | October 30, 2010 at 01:23 PM
that's the irony, the ones who (on the Dem side) will pay the biggest price are by and large the ones that followed the Dem Leadership and come from safe districts ie Pelosi, Waters, et al.
Although it is telling that Barney Frank is starting to sweat a bit. He'll no doubt win, but damn that would be something to see him turned out and a testament to the real change you can believe in.
Posted by: Puget Sound--for Usual Suspects | October 30, 2010 at 01:26 PM
should read, the ones who won't pay the price but led the charge are from safe districts that won't pay the ultimate price.
the ones that will pay the price -moderates- will be history.
Posted by: Puget Sound--for Usual Suspects | October 30, 2010 at 01:35 PM