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August 01, 2010

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KS

he imitates and mocks Bill O'Reilly.

Redneck Liberal

Good job KS! You were listening.

Is it really news to anyone that conservatives are humorless, gullible and easily led???

joanie

Ah, life is sometimes sooooo sweet:
Greenspan Blasts GOP Push To Extend Bush Tax Cuts Without Paying For Them ..
David Stockman: Republicans Have Crippled The Economy

KS

Interesting article. Stockman seems to leave the Democratics out of the conversation (not sure why) and disliked what the neo-cons did (good). He casts doubt on whether an extension of tax cuts will be matched with spending cuts like they should be. Funny thing, but the last time I checked - the Dems were in control. It could change after November. His arguments would be valid if the GOP did not go after spending cuts.

The jist of his op-ed was about how the GOP had used Keynesian economics (how about throwing out a barb at Krugman ?) in starting this downhill slide into a world of debt. Stockman was a odd-duck and shows it again as its odd that he gave the Democratics a pass. He has the right idea about any tax cuts being matched by spending cuts, which was last seen during the Clinton years by the Republican controlled congress. (Joanie did not want to hear that)

Redneck Liberal

Who are the "Democratics" BTW?

KS

It's aimed at stray non-Democrats who visit this blog - Republicans represent the Republican Party and similarly Democratics represent the Democratic Party. This is to force those to call the party by its correct name, (i.e. those who refer to it as the Democrat party because the constituents are Democrats).

The Anti-Dori

KS is illiterate. He can't tell the difference between nouns and adjectives. Anybody who doesn't know the difference between nouns and adjectives probably shouldn't be second-guessing David Stockman.

KS

I was making a joke, asshat...

Puget Sound

but that ass-hat fits the 'anti-dori' so damn well. almost custom made...

Puget Sound --Fox News awarded Helen Thomas Seat Unanimously!

just throwing a scare in ya, coils.
they didn't get the Thomas seat, but still got a seat in the front row due to the 'retirement' of this anti-semite.

Puget Sound

Whatever happened to that KSM trial Atty Gen Holder was pushing last year? Looks like another 'competency' issue from this Administration. Man, these are just adding up...Almost 'Carter-esque'
From the Times:

"But Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the professed mastermind of the attacks, and four alleged accomplices are still sequestered at Guantanamo without charges. The Obama administration, after months of review, hasn’t made a decision on whether to seek a military or civilian trial.

It’s a delay that has angered relatives of Sept. 11 victims. It also has created an unusual situation: Previous war-crimes proceedings, in which Mohammed boasted of his role in the attacks and said he wanted to plead guilty, have essentially been erased. No U.S. officials will say what the plans are for the five men who were transferred in 2006 to Guantanamo from secret CIA custody.

“There’s no case, there’s no judge, there’s nothing,” said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Richard Federico, a military lawyer appointed to defend alleged plotter Ramzi bin al Shibh. “They are back into the black hole.”

Attorney General Eric Holder announced in November the trial would be moved to federal court in New York. But the administration backtracked and put the issue under review after local officials objected to the costs and potential security threat.

The military and justice department refer questions about the status to the White House, which said in March a decision was weeks away. An Obama administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press on Friday it is still reviewing the venue and forum for the trial.

Lawyers for the Sept. 11 defendants and other observers doubt an announcement will be made before November elections, because moving them to the United States and keeping them in Guantanamo for a military trial are both politically unpopular choices."


Redneck Liberal

Well gosh, Puget, I guess you've worn us liberals down. We'll just have to admit our leader is a big Muslim who wants to destroy America. Allahu Akbar... death to the infidel!

Dane

Put this in your sub-average-IQ basket rightwingers:

Bush made the top twenty in only two categories, luck (18th) and willingness to take risks (19th), and he sits in the bottom five in 12 of the 20 categories, notably 42nd in intelligence, foreign policy accomplishments, and communication ability.

chucks

Not if we can just get the rest of the libbies on this blog to admit what a monumental screw up it was to elect Obama and help replace him with somebody with common sense.
Good to see you grow Redneck Lib.

joanie

In the end, truth will out. Won’t it?

Maybe not. Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

This bodes ill for a democracy,...

This explains Red's response. Those of us operating on facts will probably have to watch you emoional "belief" people ruin the country. Maybe we'll survive it and maybe we won't. Time will tell.

Greenspan recognizes facts and his response? "DISASTROUS"

Stockman recognizes facts and his reponse: "Republicans crippled our economy"

But chux is smarter than all of us. Or is it really supreme ignorance?

Medved

Yeah, what a screwup it was to elect Obama instead of McCain and Palin.

You bigots sure are stupid.

joanie

From the same article:

In reality, we often base our opinions on our beliefs, which can have an uneasy relationship with facts. And rather than facts driving beliefs, our beliefs can dictate the facts we chose to accept. They can cause us to twist facts so they fit better with our preconceived notions. Worst of all, they can lead us to uncritically accept bad information just because it reinforces our beliefs. This reinforcement makes us more confident we’re right, and even less likely to listen to any new information. And then we vote."

You know, if you really cared about the country and if you were really honest, you'd try to change. Anytime you think one news source (all the variations of Fixed News whether on radio, tv, or print) is the only one telling the truth, something's wrong.

joanie

Finally, some evidence that Obama is pulling out of Afghanistan. Thank you, Julian Assange.

Puget Sound

joanie
will pres obama not renew those bush tax cuts?
is that a mistake?

Puget Sound

it is so damn funny what will happen in November when running on a platform of:
1)Blame Bush
2)Sarah Palin is Stupid-Cheney is evil
3)Fox aka Fixed News

We'll see how it works out.
Of course Dems could run on Pres Obama's record such as the economy. Or maybe those stellar Congressional accomplishments of Pelosi/Reid, eh?
Right now they have a 11 percent approval rating. Oh by the way, can't wait to watch the Rangel and Waters hearings just before the election. And did you catch that they are charging the Dem led Congress with racism? Funny, when Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham were nailed I didn't hear about a racist Congressional Ethics Probe.

Hell, it's so bad competitive Dems don't want Pres Obama campaigning for 'em...LMAO!

If we could only get the Dems to run on a platform of higher taxes during a recession it would be perfect. BTW, just wait for the Investigations post this Congressional turnover.

joanie

will pres obama not renew those bush tax cuts?
is that a mistake?

Read above - Greenspan and Stockman. It is up to Congress.

joanie

Re your favorite Milton: It is also an outcome that Milton Friedman said could never happen when, in 1971, he persuaded President Nixon to unleash on the world paper dollars no longer redeemable in gold or other fixed monetary reserves. Just let the free market set currency exchange rates, he said, and trade deficits will self-correct.

It may be true that governments, because they intervene in foreign exchange markets, have never completely allowed their currencies to float freely. But that does not absolve Friedman’s $8 trillion error. Once relieved of the discipline of defending a fixed value for their currencies, politicians the world over were free to cheapen their money and disregard their neighbors.

But then you're probably smarter than Greenspan and Stockman.

chucks

Some of us can be presented with facts and change our positions, joanie.
I was a loyal and devoted Democrat right up until about 1979, when I learned the truth. That is when I switched to a more conservative stance and began to understand how big government, guided by Democrats spending other people's hard earned money were going to drive this nation to our collective knee's.
Those scoundrels in DC are proving me more correct than I had ever hoped.
We need to rid government of the hopey-changey affirmative action President and the corrupt rat bastard commies Pelosi and Reid.
We need to save the banking and investment industry from the moronic Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.
Of course, you joanie are still stuck on stupid. You and your minions have been gang raped by the Democrat party and now think that that is how love works.
Now that the crooks have the attention of the Independent voters, maybe we can get them out this November.

joanie

That's when you started making more money and became selfish, chucks. Let's be honest. You kinda liked being able to screw the medical system when you needed bankruptcy. Well you got it.

And the fact that your post deteriorates to an emotional name-calling rant proves the truth of the article I posted. No evidence; nothing factual; and beliefs in lieu of information offered by two conservatives who have actual expertise.

joanie

BTW, it is not about Democrat or Republican. I usually vote liberal but I consider myself independent. The Democratic Party is way right of me in most things.

I am not now and never have been a devoted anything politically. I educate myself and vote the issues. In my life, I started out a Republican; became a Democrat when I was in my late twenties; moved to independent status in my forties. That's when I grew up and started thinking for myself. An example of a recent change: I've always been against a state income tax. I'm vulnerable. I'm in that single person middle income bracket that always gets targeted. When I realized that my federal taxes would be reduced the amount of my state taxes, I changed my mind. I'd rather keep the money in WA state.

I still worry a bit about it because people like you will demand loopholes that people like me won't get. That's what rich people do. But I'm willing to take the chance if it results in making our state a better place for all people to live. I want all people to have health care, safe bridges, shelter, food, an education and beautiful safe parks to visit.

I believe you are in a minority. I think most people think like me which is why Obama got elected. He failed to recognize that those people that voted for him really were ready for change. I don't know what's going to happen. But I do know that the little group of self-interested and hate-filled people like you who love war do not represent the majority of our country. The question becomes: will they vote again for the change that never materialized or will their apathy reinstate itself and, thus, empower your small unrepresentative minority?

You will always have a place to go. The Republicans are about money. Democrats have a wider charge: they are supposed to be the party of people, education and labor. Well, the labor has been shipped to China; education has been stripped bare partly due to tax incentives for now failing charter schools; and people have become labels: immigrants, aliens, Islamo-fascists, old white tea pariers, entertainers who make money of the ignorance of people like you, poor people, and soldiers who return to America and become poor people, drug addicts and part of the fogotten. Because the only industry we export these days is war.

Thank you chucks for the wonderful country you've left your children and grandchildren.

joanie

And only in America - the America you want to preserve - would an RV salesman be worth more than a teacher.

KS

"I am not now and never have been a devoted anything politically. I educate myself and vote the issues."

Bullpucky, you are devoted to being anti-conservative, just like Coiler, Medved and the rest of the assorted leftwingnuts. Have you ever voted for a Republican in the last 25 years ?

Puget Sound

Joanie
"It may be true that governments, because they intervene in foreign exchange markets, have never completely allowed their currencies to float freely."


Errr, Joanie that would seem to be a fairly big part of the equation.

Puget Sound

Joanie sez:
"I educate myself"

and

"And only in America - the America you want to preserve - would an RV salesman be worth more than a teacher."

Posted by: joanie | August 02, 2010 at 02:13 PM

First off, you need a competent teacher.
Second, what's up with this hollier than thou attitude.
Why are you so much better than Chucks? His taxes kept your keester warm in King County at the Courthouse as a clerk or whatever low level position you latched on to for 30 years. I'm sure putting a time-stamp on those court docs was real difficult work.
So yeah, he should have been paid more than you.


joanie

Slade Gorton when he ran against Mike Lowery was the last Republican I voted for. I'd vote for Lowery today. Actually, Dan Satterberg a couple days ago.

Now, tell me a liberal you've ever voted for.

joanie

Another red herring out of context. That's why nobody talks to you.

Puget Sound

whine whine whine.
Mike Lowery, the Gov who fondled staff members?

"• Teachers in Seattle receive an average of $70,850 for a ten-month year, plus $9,855 in benefits. Teachers can earn up to $88,463, or $98,318 including benefits.

• The ten-month work year includes nine paid holidays, and a total of four paid weeks off (not counting summers). District employees receive ten days of paid sick leave and two days of personal leave."

If you correct for senior teachers, the real average pay for teachers is probably closer to the low 60's. But given generous holiday and ten month schedule that isn't horrible.

If you want to make more, Joanie, stop whining and go back to school and get a formal education that would qualify you to teach at a higher level.


chucks

Joanie. Your federal income taxes are not reduced by the amount of state taxes. Your taxable income is reduced.
If your federal taxable income is $70,000 and you pay $3500.00 state income tax, your federal taxable is reduced to $66500.00. If you are in a 25% bracket, the federal reduction of tax would be $875.00.
You get the same benefit writing off your sales tax. You buy a $30,000 car plus add your other deductible sales tax, and you are ahead.
Plus, you can not trust those lying bastards in Olympia to not adjust the brackets over and over and over again.

joanie

Still sputtering about things you know nothing about, huh, sputs? You're still a bean counter and probably an overpaid one. And just like in your response to the Stockman article, you don't consider the whole story. Why do you insist on showing such ignorance?

Thanks, chucks. I didn't know that. I think I'm still for a state income tax but I have to admit, I don't like the loopholes and Congress always seems to satisfy their big money. Yes, it is a trust issue. That is a little worrisome. Do you see that as just a problem with Democrats?

Puget Sound

Chucks
I wouldn't want you to think many of us think like the Usual Suspects. Taking a shot at someone who had to use a medical bankruptcy is cheap and a real low blow.

I doubt she'll grasp the difference between above the line and below the line tax deductions.
30 plus years at the King County Courthouse hasn't prepared her for the business world. No doubt she orders the undercoating rust protector when she buys a car...

joanie

I didn't work for KC and I wish you'd quit guessing about me. It seems you are obsessed with me but that does not entitle you to make guesses about how much I make, where I work or anything else.

You really are a gossipy old woman.

chucks

I have said it many times before. I don't trust any of them. The ones in power are all crooks. The ones that occupy office are dreamers yet to be corrupted. That is why they won't allow term limits.
Why do so many in Congress and the Senate get rich while in office? How does that happen?
These days, I am spending a lot of time enjoying tea at various party functions.
We are going to force (trying anyway) the Republicans to quit acting like Democrats. This steal from those that work to give to favored constituents is getting old. Both sides do it. Your side has just gotten too aggressive in theft, but my side had gotten pretty tricky as well. Just not as good at it as Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Obama, Fwank, Waters, Rangel et al.

joanie

Then how do you explain Citizens United if the Dems are worse? It wasn't the liberal justices that voted to keep money flowing into the pockets of Congress.

Puget Sound

And lets be clear about the 2008 election. Unlike the frauds of 2000, 2002, and 2004, this election was relatively clean. I think we can all see by the results. The people have spoken.
The educated shall lead the way.

Let the Obasms continue to 2012!

Posted by: Joanie | November 07, 2008 at 01:42 PM

how'd those 'obasms' working for you, joanie? lmao

joanie

chucks. . . chucks... still thinking about that last one?

C'mon, chucks. It is always about money with all of them. At least the Democrats share a little bit of it with We, the People. If I were making the rules, you wouldn't have gotten any unemployment. That was your wish, right? That unemployment comp is another government give-away? No. You wouldn't have gotten it. Neither would I. We make enough money that we should be able to plan for those times when we are out of work. We have discretionary income.

But, people making minimum wage or less that $30,000 maybe $40,000 a year? They need a safety net.

See, it's not black and white. It takes some nuance. Congress? I'd take away their bennies in a nano-second if I could. They need to live like the average voter. And no better. They are, afterall, civil servants.

Puget Sound

Duff
I see that Pudge has yet to come on my Blatherwatch site to congratulate Obama on his victory.
Anyone catch what Malloy had to say today? Good stuff.

Posted by: Joanie Kicking Rethug Tail | November 07, 2008 at 02:12 PM

wonder if you'll be heading over to soundpolitics to congratulate pudge come this november...

Puget Sound

joanie,
you're the one who posted about your 30 years clerking in the court system.
which one was it?

Puget Sound

"

I would like to say something positive:
As of this election, I am no longer ashamed to be an American.
The last eight years have been very difficult.
But in the spirit of democracy the people have spoken.
We will soon be starting the investigations with Waxman, Shumer, and the rest looking into the shady deals of the Bush Administration. Blackwater, WMDs, and the illegal firing of the Attorney Generals will be a good start. And we bring America together. We know how to stop partisan bickering. First we shut down the hate talk. Next we close Gitmo and bring those alleged terrorist prisoners to America. Let them experiance real justice with the American Court System. I hope we can put these trials on TV so everyone can watch throughout the world fair and impartial justice. Let's hear what they have to say when they take the stand.
We negotiate in good faith with North Korea and Iran. We will get them to sign binding agreements in which they promise to comply with the UN. If you don't show and demonstrate trust you won't get trust in return. It works on the playground and should work in the real world.
Anyone take issue with that? Oh yeah, Pudge if you can break away from the breakfast table why don't you come on over and say something nice about Obama.

Posted by: Joanie | November 08, 2008 at 10:47 AM "

Hey Joanie
How'd all those 'predictions' turn out for America?

Puget Sound

yikes joanie
looks like someone was doing the false posting on you that day.
i read later where you disavowed some of those posts.
my apologies, i've had that happen to me and it's no fun picking up the mess.

Puget Sound

but before you flip too much crap, even sparky got fooled. so i'm not the only one who fell for it.

KS

Ph(j)oanie - I voted 3 times for Adam Smith the last time in 2008- but what does that have to do with anything ?
You made said statement, not I.

That's pretty much as I figured - not discretionary and only once in the last 25 years.

KS

And lets be clear about the 2008 election. Unlike the frauds of 2000, 2002, and 2004, this election was relatively clean. I think we can all see by the results. The people have spoken.
The educated shall lead the way.

Let the Obasms continue to 2012!

Posted by: Joanie | November 07, 2008 at 01:42 PM

Actually, 2008 probably had a higher incidence of voter fraud than the other 3, but the final result in the POTUS was not close enough to contest it at the time.

Much of the educated have their heads up their tuckuses when it comes to correctly interpreting the Constitution, but they are holier than thou arrogant a-holes when it comes to respecting the will of the people - you want to be like them don't you ? That explains your contempt. Pudge gives his regards :)

joanie

Whoopee doo. You voted for one; I voted for two. I didn't have to vote for Satterberg. I could have written in or not voted.

Whoopee doo. I can count, can you?

Who's pudge?

KS

I didn't mention Brian Sonntag, who I have voted for 5 times. Satterburg is probably more liberal than Sonntag.
5 + 3 is greater than 1 +1. Ha ha.

Pudge is main reason you aren't over on Sound Politics - you aren't fooling anyone, maybe not even Sparky.

joanie

Oh, I forgot about Sontag. That's makes three for me.

Pudge? Who the fuck cares, klueless.

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