OPEN THREAD: state of the union

“I don't quit!" President Obama, SOTU, 2010

Comments

[TommyOate]

Good timing Bla'm.
I don't know about anyone else but the fervor in Pres Obama's speech as POTUS on this first SOTU is not quite up to par with his campaign speeches.
He just lectured to the Dems that 'true leadership' means not 'heading for the hills' on tough political issues. Whoever wrote that line for him (and Kudo's to him if he did it himself) should be commended. The power rests with the Democratic Party and NOW is the time to get things done, there's absolutely no excuse why progress can't be made. The Republicans need to present their ideas (if in fact they have any of substance) and unity should be top priority for satisfying the needs of the American public. If not NOW, WHEN?

[Sarah]

Have to agree with T08 on this one. Where is our leadership.

[POTUS]

Hey Short Bus, STFU from the POTUS

[sparky]

SMACKDOWN of SROTUS and the Cons.
Ending the Iraq war ( does nothing make you happy, Duffman?)..telling everyone to focus on building up instead of tearing down.
Excellent.

[max]

interesting to see how few R's there are in that congress. how do they get so much with so little?

[Sarah]

Cause the Dems are cowards.

[thothman]

SOTU was a little weak on big ideas. A spending freeze that won't start for a year. He did a good job stating the problem about citizens united ruling but only asked that congress work with him to try to address the problem. Where was the call for a constitutional amendment to fix the problem of money in politics once and for all. I was disappointed in his come together for the good of the country talk. Bought and paid for politicians are only going to do what their corporate masters want and a goody twoshoes speech won't change that.

[KluelesS, chunks & PutzS = tres assholes]

Have to agree with T08 on this one. Where is our leadership.

isn't with the gNOp, that's for sure.

the gNOp platform of party first country second doesn't resinate with Americans. fear mongering slogans aren't working anymore, as much as you would like them to say rah.

can't wait for the rest of the trio to weigh in ...

[sparky]

Dear Justice Alito:

The President is allowed to call your decision enabling corporate takeover of elections bad for America. It's his opinion, and he's more than entitled to it.

Hugs and Kisses,
The Constitution

[joanie]

I was pleased with his professorial slap on the faces of those justices who overturned a century of settled law. Where's all the shrieks and hysteria about an activist Court on the right? Oh, I forgot. Politics is a team sport with them. Winner take all. Screw the country.

I think Obama said that - in a nicer way of course - didn't he? I thought that was a nice touch.

It is all about staging with the right. they know their constituency (corporations) will pay for it and their low-information voters love stagecraft more than policy and issues. Well, I hope they get their fill of stagecraft cuz' that's all they'll be able to put on the table once jobs are all overseas, higher education becomes unaffordable, children will be chronically sick due to a toxic environment and health care will not be available 'cuz no one on the right wants it to be.

Aren't we becoming a wonderful third world country. How quaint. And at one time we had it all.

Well, at least Obama will continue to be seen as a really nice guy. And the Iraqis will be grateful we are finally leaving. I wonder if the Afghans think it is going to take them eight years to get rid of us. I really feel for them.

[joanie]

On another topic: Goldman has a 5 p.m. show on Chicago Progressive Talk. I'm surprised. That's a pretty good market. Also, progressive talk in Bellingham 930 AM has already replaced Reagan with Mike Malloy 6-8 then Alan Colmes 9-12. Interesting. I keep wondering what KPTK is going to do.

No Goldman in Bellingham! When he started sounding really juvenile tonight - whining kind of - I was done. It was KUOW after that. I think Goldman is going to be good for public radio around here.

Also, Malloy welcomed 930 AM last night but he kept saying Spokane. Is there a 930 in Spokane? Maybe so. Otherwise, big mistake. But I don't know.

[Coiler]

he picked up Reno and San Jose

spocaine is 1230

[joanie]

Well, Mike kept saying 930 - I listened twice. I thought he might be talking Bellingham but continued to say Spokane.

Also, I wonder who gave him the message? You know what I'm talking about?

[Paul Johnson]

Joanie=Crazed WEA employee. Settled law? Is that like settled science, AKA Al Gore's AGW scam? Is your constitution a forever moving target? And where the hell do you teach TEACH? I could at least warn the students there what you are!

[joanie]

That was a thoughtful response. Who writes your material anyway? You need a new writer. You guys are boring. Too much hyperbole.

[joanie]

Howard Zinn died of a heart attack. He was 87. Saw it on HuffPo. So sad. I recently saw him on CSpan. I wondered. He was so fragile.

He will be missed. One of the last great crusaders. I wonder who will replace these people who experienced so much and learned so much from those experiences. They know the truth. They reflect the heart, ethics and values that made America the great country it used to be.

Serendipitous. I just received today my recent purchase of his latest A PEOPLE'S HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. Much heavier than the original.

[KS]

The SOTU may have appealed to his base, but it left independents cold.

Funny how he contradicted himself on a number of occasions, like no more cynicism, then was once again cynical, no relitigating the past after blaming all our economic woes on the last 8 years. Did he take responsibility for part of it like he should ? Nope.

He is slick at compartmentalizing what he says, then forgetting that he ever said something by his word a few minutes later. Evidently he believe his audience is dumbed down enough to not notice his hypocrisy or just believes he is above reproach.

[Bill Jr.]

KS: seriously, what's your source for your claim he left independents cold? I'm curious about that.

What part of our economic woes should he take responsibility for?

What part should the right in Congress take responsibility for? The left?

Kind of an interesting attack you make. I'm looking for a few specifics.

[Tommy008]

i yukked it up with Savage as POTUS was pontificating and droning on other stations, outside, here on Queen Anne, putting the first LEVEL of my SHOWCAR QUALITY WAX on my classic 420 Mercedes SEL'S paint job.

[KluelesS, chunks & PutzS = tres assholes]

well, speaking of dumbed down ... hey KS!

[Tommy008]

Repugs have a real thing now, a poker up their ass about Goldman Sachs, and tying that outfit into the Obama administration. Little Frankie Shiers had some Repug conservative journalist on a while back with an "expose" of Goldman Sachs. Today a Repug Congresswoman was hectoring Geithner about his chief of staff, badgering the Treasury man him into admitting that he came from Goldman Sachs. When he finally said Goldman Sachs in response, the witch Repug said "thank you very much. you've answered my question" as if shed just scored an AHA! MOMENT and a gotcha , as if Geitner had just admitted he was a card carrying member of the Communist Party. Geithner tried to add some remarks, but the Republican hag wouldn't let him speak and just kept repeating ,"you've answered my question thankyou, there's nothing more you need to say, thankyou, thank you," etc. Smacks a bit of Repug Party anti-semitic Jew-hating crapola, stuff they've been known for in the past.

[chucks]

It was a nice little talk Obama gave this evening. His writers did an adequate job of loading the old teleprompter. Thanks to God that the only thing a fellow needs to be able to do in order to become POTUS is be able to read a teleprompter well. Does it concern any of you that he needed the damn thing (2 of them actually) to talk to a class full of sixth graders. You can't risk getting out smarted buy 30 or so 10 and 11 year old kids. Stick to the written script by your handlers.
Anyway, I am glad that he is so determined to continue the current coarse. He is lost, steering into a major storm, his navigator is stoned out of his mind and Obama has never before ridden in a ship, let alone commanded one.
Our nation can and must survive those morons in charge. In November, we will be rid of enough Democrats in Congress that we will be able to hold it together until 2012.
KS is right about the indy's. The Dem's have scared the hell out of them.

[chucks]

Tommy, that sounds like a new jr Senator from AirAmerica speaking to Sen Leiberman, speaking of anti-semite Jew-hating crapola that flows from the bigots on the left.

[KluelesS, chunks & PutzS = tres assholes]

like I said, speaking of dumbed down ...

[Duffman]

Regarding last night's State of the Union address, my impression is that Harry’s Got It Right.
Symbolism over substance and what substance there was, was 'under'-energetic. I think even Pres Obama is realizing that it's time for action over talk. [I also believe our President has to be cautious about the direction he's getting from Rahm Emmanuel].

[Duffman]

Just one added thought.
I would guess that many of you (and you know who you are) are honestly thinking now that 'damn, Duffman was right all along'. We picked the wrong Dem; it really should have been Mrs Clinton. [Of course I shan't expect you to own up to that.] As I sometimes say:
Asi 'es la vida. We Live and learn. [Hopefully]
[smile]

[ExPatBrit]

Duffman, do you seriously believe that Clinton would have taken a shot at healthcare after what happened in 1993?

I am not happy with the way it has turned our this time, but I bet the Clinton(s) would have backed away again.

[Duffman]

I'm sorry my responses are limited herein, I will let the other minions here at the office entertain you with retort and response.I just don't have the time any more.

[KS]

KS: seriously, what's your source for your claim he left independents cold? I'm curious about that."

I googled State of the Union -2010. It's not that difficult.

"What part of our economic woes should he take responsibility for? "

How about spending on steroids in the second Stimulus for starters ?
Then a record deficit ?

"What part should the right in Congress take responsibility for? The left?"

The right was getting shut out of the process by the Dem-controlled Congress and whenever they contributed legislation, it was voted down by the majority. Their influence was minimal, but they could have been more compromising, but compromise has to work both ways and the Dems refused to budge. I blame the leadership (Pelosi and Reid) for this. A balance of power is what is missing, no matter which party is in control. The majority has a tendency to overreach when they have majorities.

If you think he was shooting straight, PT Barnum would like you.
Justice Alito apparently did not buy it.

[joanie]

Sirota gave a nice homage to Zinn this morning. Zinn was scheduled for David's program next month. Very sad.

Zinn had Obama's number. "When you start with a compromise, you end up with a compromise of a compromise of a compromise."

I wish Sirota would podcast. A lot of talk about Colorado politics as well as national. He sure disses Michael Bennett.

[KS]

Since Barnum has been pushing up daisies for over 100 years - I make the following correction:

"If you think he was shooting straight, PT Barnum would HAVE likeD you."

My entertainment window has closed and will be out of the office for the duration of the day.

[james chan]

A question about goldman. Is he still 'buying his way' on the air? If so, how is that done? What about commercial sponsors?

[joanie]

Do you know for a fact he's doing that Coiler? James Chan, what I think is that he distributes his own show and he sells it cheap. Is that possible, coiler? That way he's not paying but he's not making a lot of money either. And the station has programming that it can sell without putting out a lot of money.

Maybe?

[joanie]

For eighth day, climate activists block bulldozers at WV’s Coal River Mountain.

Coal River Mountain, WV

[chucks]

Miss a couple of days of work and those miners might go deer hunting in order to feed their families. Kind of difficult to differentiate a deer from a hippy when they are in a tree.

[Puget Sound]

Dear Justice Alito:

The President is allowed to call your decision enabling corporate takeover of elections bad for America. It's his opinion, and he's more than entitled to it.

Hugs and Kisses,
The Constitution

Posted by: sparky | January 27, 2010 at 08:35 PM

err Sparkles, Justice Alito didn't stop anyone from speaking. after all, he voted to broaden the first amendment.

but yeah, most people see through what Pres Obama was doing: firing up his nutroot base. and judging by the usual suspects here, it worked. it was a low class stunt complete with braying democrats yelling/jeering.

BTW, anyone notice that the Justice Department is looking to try KLM someplace OTHER than New York City?
looks like pres Obama has decided to go the Clinton and not Carter route.

LMAO.

[Puget Sound]

jeezus, i knew with a lineup of maddow, olberman, and matthews it would be fun to watch. nicely done by john stewart.
maybe next time they can bring in david shyster...watch matthews get made to look pretty damn stupid. not joanie stupid, but stupid nonetheless.

dude, you're miked!

[TommyOate]

In case any one is interested, there's an interesting piece in today's Seattle Times on a trail of $money involved in the John Edwards fiasco. Seems large sums of $money were apparently transmitted in boxes of choclate?
Wow, this thing gets more incredible by the minute.
Condolences out to coiler, joanie and sparky.

[Puget Sound]

wow, the downfall of yet another Liberal Lyon of the Left. last we checked, Bernie Ward is 'indisposed' for the next 12 years. anyomore Liberal Lyons of the Left? Can't be Pres Obama as he is moving quickly towards Clinton Country to remain relevant.

shocking.

now lets see, who on this blog was the big john edwards supporter...

check out 'game changer' if you want to get some insights into elizabeth edwards. she was displeased with some of the staff work and threatened to cut off their health care. the book makes clear that while the public perception is of saint elizabeth the private perception is different. but even with that, what john edwards did was horrible. still can't believe his supporters bought the 'her cancer was in remission' storyline.

is coiler still around? i thought the right front wheel of scott brown's truck took coils out.

[TommyOate]

Anybody else note the apparent inverse relationship between the frequency in posts of this blog's regular dedicated liberal-progressives and posts by Puget Sound.
Reminds me of Jack Nicholson's infamous line "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE FACTS".
Bwahahahaha

[joanie]

Pick a little , peck a little
cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep

[KS]

Scott Brown was on Jay Leno last night. He seemed down to earth and someone I'd put more stock in than POTUS, not just because of his political stripes. He likes his pick up truck. I'd like to see he and his daughter be challenged by Obamba and another in 2 on 2 b-ball. My money would be on Brown & daughter if Barry accepts it.

I think that TommyOate is onto something above,except I believe it goes "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH".

[TommyOate]

Thanks for the correction KS, you're right of course they can't handle that either. Notice joanie's childish response given in total oblivious and evasive fashion.
No school today, joanie?
Bwahahaha LMAO

[Coiler]

Brown and daughters? anything like Palin and daughter and baby and abstinence inseminator?

[KS]

LMAO. Grasping at straws again. Go ahead and believe that...

[TommyOate]

The cockroaches are emerging.
They have so little and to be consumed by fear over an attractive former Governor.
Bwahahaha

[Puget Sound]

The sad part is that among the 'usual suspects' Sparkles is the CPU or to break it into 'High Fivin White Guy Parlance,'

Sparkles is the Moe to Joanie's--Larry and Coiler--Curley.

Not sure who is Shemp is that bunch...yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk

[Puget Sound]

On second thought, I nominate "Tres A-hole" for the role of Shemp.

That fits nicely. LMAO

[tad]

Puget Sound giggles like a girl.

[KS]

Tres assholes (the ultimate mole) would be the north end of their horse going south and Tad would could be Shemp and Coiler is Curley.