Inside fox news: o'reilly vs beck is fear, envy, and 'passive warfare'

"It is not just Murdoch (and everybody else at News Corp's highest levels) who absolutely despises Bill O'Reilly, the bullying, mean-spirited, and hugely successful evening commentator," Wolff wrote, "but [Fox News chief executive] Roger Ailes himself loathes him. Success, however, has cemented everyone to each other."

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[chucks]

Is Beck one of the far right blogurz that O'Reilly was refering to? I guess it is possible but I am having a tough time finding it.
Does anybody know where to find GlennBeck.Blog, or what the correct name for his blog is?

[KS]

Nice conspiracy theory, Bla'M !

[joanie]

This should all keep the five million Fox addicts on the edge of their seats. Must be the only excitement they get in their boring little Faux News-directed lives.

[jaonie]

Sorry but the only seemingly bored one is you. Probably because you bring so little to the table.

[chucks]

By the way, are we still going to be stalking Rush? Are we just going to add Beck because of his unexpected but solid success on both TeeVee and the AM radio?
Are we going to continue with BillO now that he is off the radio?
I don't see where any of them have gone after a no contact order. They must be OK with it.
Is there a priority list?

[KS]

Beck along with Michael Savage is probably going to be targeted by DHS with their alert on right-wing activists. This was probably orchestrated in part to refocus the sheeple on how they really want the Tea Parties to appear.

Apparently, brown shirts now occupy the higher levels of the Department of Homeland Security. One upsmanship by the Obama Admin. over the previous eight years - disappointing to those who want responsible government. Bush and Obama, both wrong.

[sparky]

Conspiracy theory KS? Michael talks to someone who works for Fixed News on the inside, but you know better?
How interesting.

[nevets]

I wonder if that "inside guy" is someone called "Choch" Mañana.

[Earl Grey]

What a day. woooo weee...you pugs are freaky as all get out. I'gotta' rest myself.

[Nestea]

Yep, the Nestea plung took on a new meaning today.

[joanie]

Probably because you bring so little to the table.

Well, I guess I bring enough to the table to keep you interested. You prove my point. Thanks.

[KS]

"Fixed News on the inside, but you know better?"

I thought you didn't believe that liberals worked for Fox News- those were the only ones Bla'M would chat with - along with his spin - its a matter of interpretation.

As for Fixed News - no one ever accused you of critical thinking lately - just another sign of it. The real "Fixed News" is your predominantly leftist brethren at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC and throw in NPR for good measure, although NPR tries to balance some therefore is not as bad as the rest. Fox News may not be fair - like all of the reat, but they strive to be balanced, which is more than can be said for CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC.

[M.Steele]

Hey joanie;
Got your message in the previous thread. Been reading a long time and decided to participate . It’s hard to elevate the conversation when the opposition is entrenched.

[M.Steele]

KS, are you saying CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC are predominantly leftist? If so I think you are committing the same opps you are trying to denigrate.

[joanie]

what's funny about what ks purports is that I, too, always thought NPR was pretty balanced until I talked to a friend who listens to it all the time and he said "are you kidding?" They have three liberals for every conservative routinely.

He's an MIT-trained engineer and he's a progressive but one who tries to be "fair and balanced" in his opinions. I laughed when he said that.

Steele, do you think they think we're entrenched? Are we?

[M.Steele]

I don’t know what you mean by that anecdote, but I try to have an open mind. I don’t plan to point out the inconsistent rhetoric but…. The rhetoric seems to be based on conjecture then promulgated by folks that don’t bother to check if the conjecture was reasoned or true. I find if you challenge that conjecture you usually get condensation.
I.E.” Still waiting for a coherent rebuttal, Steele. I'll chalk you up as being willfully ignorant. Nice try sort of...”
Posted by: KS | April 15, 2009 at 07:24 AM
If KS had any teabags, she would ask me herself.

[M.Steele]

Hittin’ the sack KS. You can spew while I sleep.
P.S. you don’t have to pretend to be joanie, we all know….

[KS]

"KS, are you saying CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC are predominantly leftist? If so I think you are committing the same opps you are trying to denigrate."

No shit ! I think you are incoherent, but I'll play along. Hey, Steele do you pay taxes ? I am just wondering why a large number of people seemingly don't give a shit if our liberties are scuttled by the Department of Homeland Security, as directed by the POTUS (you screamed loudly when Bush did it, but now - hey whatever - right ?). If folks don't pay taxes, they don't really have a stake in the government and are indebted to be Progressive Democrats and like the brown shirts, when they are on their side.

[KS]

Why do you so dislike Fox News ? Fox is not only Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly. There are others who are more moderate and some liberals. On top of that, CNN has Sanchez and Cafferty - two progressives and MSNBC has Olber.. Maddow and Schultz now for the leftist mantra who spew the bullcrap, IMO.

It is healthy that a network like Fox exists to provide both sides of the story, as opposed to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS, who predominantly weigh in with the liberal viewpoint and reluctantly present conservative viewpoints. The main magazines, Time and Newsweek are slanted toward the left as are the large urban newspapers - some of which have gone under recently, due mainly to the flattening of the world and new media (bet you thought I was going to say something else).

[joanie]

Hey, Steele, that anecdote speaks for itself. Not everyone thinks NPR is balanced although Klueless seems to think it is - sort of.

My question to you still stands: do you think the right thinks we are entrenched? I agree with your assessment that we try to argue facts and issues while they argue . . . I haven't quite figured that out yet. Circles maybe?

I suppose that if one thinks we're entrenched, it all becomes a game of words instead of ideas.

With the right, I've given up because I think it is a game of words and nothing more. And given KS's use of "incoherent" above, I don't think they know what the words they use even mean most of the time. They certainly don't reflect any intelligent thinking. Do they?

Oh, and KS, do you remember the poll that showed that Fox News watchers were the least informed about WMDs in Iraq? I guess that does cover "both sides of the story" - on the one hand, the truth (I'm sure it appeared somewhere on Faux News), and on the other hand, the Bush lies.

I'm laughing so hard here.

God, you're klueless.

[Drew]

Who in the hell is considered a liberal or moderate on Fixed News?? KS is smokin' some more of that crazy shit bought from PUTS at a yard sale.

[KS]

Drew wrote:
"Who in the hell is considered a liberal or moderate on Fixed News??"

NITE OF THURS., APRIL 16, 2009

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,897,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,138,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,639,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,233,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,979,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,866,000
CNN COOPER 1,277,000
CNN KING 1,260,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,229,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,172,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,052,000

Pathetic attempt, dude. I can tell you probably have never watched the others on Fox News. Greta Van Sustern, Shepard Smith, Baier, Chris Wallace and Geraldo Rivera are all moderates or liberals on Fox and the first three had better ratings last night than any of your progressive/regressive darlings from the "Fixed news" of the CNN and MSNBC who are intellectual liars.

You seemingly worship at the church of Ph(j)oanie and Sparky, the parser. It is written all over that you are entrenched. As long as you all consider the other networks fair and balanced, there is little hope for your recovery from denial. Try listening to Phil Hendrie - he's a moderate and you'll probably find yourself in agreement with some of what he says - if your puny attention span can stand it. Same with the other three on Fox that were all rated higher than any others on CNN and MSNBC. That is only one night, but fairly indicative of the pattern.

[KS]

"Oh, and KS, do you remember the poll that showed that Fox News watchers were the least informed about WMDs in Iraq?"

What year in the past was that taken? Have you bothered to look at a more recent poll ? Evidently not, because that is old news that has been long since paved over. There were not sufficient WMD's to warrant the war. Even your imagined nemisis, Bill O stated that several years ago.

[Coiler]

LOL? ROTFLMAO?

[Drew]

Look, fuckwit- all I asked was, who do you consider a liberal on Fox? (sorry, meant to spell that right- FIXED). Now, I can see why you threw Smith under the bus. He once dared to expose the network when he said on the air, "well, frankly, this IS the network that supports the Bush policies..." In fact, I am amazed that you've allowed him to survive this long. Of course, there wasn't really an exposure per se, since nobody that seeks the truth tunes into FIXED. And once, Geraldo raised his voice to Billo. It was GREAT; they had to go to break, while they put Orally's comb-over back in place, and Geraldo was waterboarded for it. Billo began acting out by calling and leaving slimy messages on the phones of coworkers, and Beck, knowing that CNN was no place for a circus freak like himself, started practicing his crocodile tears routine, hoping it would pad his resume for Capt. Ahab Murdoch.

[Drew]

And what was on Geraldo Rivera's resume for Faux News? Oh yea, giving away troop strengths/location data in a news broadcast during an invasion. Just the kind of stellar employee that Fixed needs on their team.

[Coiler]

The funny part was Geraldo and Shepard Smith being even remotely moderate, let alone

Liberal.

[Drew]

Yep. And Colin Powell must've been a raging liberal

[KS]

Are you as stupid as your response ? Just STFU. You think Geraldo isn't liberal - he wants open borders - that's not liberal. Obviously, you don't think.

Here's a quote from someone you may better identify with...

JANEANE GAROFALO: Thank you. You know, there's nothing more interesting than seeing a bunch of racists become confused and angry at a speech they're not quite certain what he's saying. It sounds right and then it doesn't make sense. Which, let's be very honest about what this is about. It's not about bashing Democrats, it's not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. And there is no way around that. And you know, you can tell these type of right wingers anything and they'll believe it, except the truth. You tell them the truth and they become -- it's like showing Frankenstein's monster fire. They become confused, and angry and highly volatile. That guy, causing them feelings they don't know, because their limbic brain, we've discussed this before, the limbic brain inside a right-winger or Republican or conservative or your average white power activist, the limbic brain is much larger in their head space than in a reasonable person, and it's pushing against the frontal lobe. So their synapses are misfiring. Is Bernie Goldberg listening?

If you sign on to this thinking, you are more mentally ill than I thought. More intellectual lies. Later, moonbat.

[KS]

Drew - you wouldn't know the truth if it kicked you in the nuts..

[KS]

I like Shepard Smith and am glad that he once dared to expose the network when he said on the air, "well, frankly, this IS the network that supports the Bush policies..."

Whether that is true or not - don't care. Good on him if he said that. Interesting, he just showed Fox News to be balanced. BTW, I did not support the Bush policies myself, so keep howling to nowhere like moonbats tend to do. Did I say Fox was fair ? Not always, just like all the others. Go back and reread previous posts lest you look stupid again.