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  • HorsesAss.Org: the straight poop on WA politics & the press
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  • Talker's Magazine
    The quirky talk radio trade mag. Check the Talk Radio Research Project- it's not very scientific, but places on the top 15 talkers list (scroll down to Talk Radio Audiences By Size)) are as hotly contested as Emmys (and mean just about as much).
  • The Advocate
    No, not THAT Advocate... it's the Northwest Progressive Institute's Official Blog.
  • Media Matters
    Documentation of right-wing media in video, audio and text.
  • Orcinus
    home of David Neiwert, freelance investigative journalist and author who writes extensively about far-right hate groups
  • Hominid Views
    "People, politics, science, and whatnot" Darryl is a statistician who fights imperialism with empiricism, gives good links and wry commentary.
  • Jesus' General
    An 11 on the Manly Scale of Absolute Gender, a 12 on the Heavenly Scale of the 10 Commandments and a 6 on the earthly scale of the Immaculately Groomed.
  • Howie in Seattle
    Howie Martin is the Abe Linkin' of progressive Seattle.
  • Streaming Radio Guide
    Hellishly long (5795!) list of radio streaming, steaming on the Internets.
  • The Naked Loon
    News satire -- The Onion in the Seattle petunia patch.
  • Irrational Public Radio
    "informs, challenges, soothes and/or berates, and does so with a pleasing vocal cadence and unmatched enunciation. When you listen to IPR, integrity washes over you like lava, with the pleasing familiarity of a medium-roast coffee and a sensible muffin."
  • The Maddow Blog
    Here's the hyper-interactive La Raych of MSNBC. daily show-vids, freakishly geeky research, and classy graphics.
  • Northwest Broadcasters
    The AM, FM, TV and digital broadcasters of Northwest Washington, USA and Southwest British Columbia, Canada. From Kelso, WA to the northern tip of Vancouver Island, BC - call letters, formats, slogans, networks, technical data, and transmitter maps. Plus "recent" news.
  • News Corpse
    The Internet's chronicle of media decay.
  • The Moderate Voice
    The voice of reason in the age of Obama, and the politics of the far-middle.
  • News Hounds
    Dogged dogging of Fox News by a team who seems to watch every minute of the cable channel so you don't have to.
  • HistoryLink
    Fun to read and free encyclopedia of Washington State history. Founded by the late Walt Crowley, it's an indispensable tool and entertainment source for history wonks and surfers alike.

right-wing blogs we like

  • The Reagan Wing
    Hearin lies the real heart of Washington State Republicans. Doug Parris runs this red-meat social conservative group site which bars no holds when it comes to saying who they are and who they're not; what they believe and what they don't; who their friends are and where the rest of the Republicans can go. Well-written, and flaming.
  • Orbusmax
    inexhaustible Drudgery of NW conservative news
  • The Radio Equalizer
    prolific former Seattle KVI, KIRO talk host speaks authoritatively about radio.
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September 22, 2008



I'm interested in sources that promote the notion that adult stem cells are just as good. I've heard it a lot but can't find anything that backs it up.

So, all you Einsteins, if you have something that is based on real science, let us know. Really. If adult cells work just as well, I can change my mind.


With the apparent multitude of problems facing this State at this time it seems odd to me that our Governor would seek to focus on this issue and spend valuable funds in advertisement in this regard. Wouldn't the good Governor be better served highliting her accomplishmensts of the past four years and spelling out is some detail what she intends to do in the next four in terms of dealing with budget, transportation, education, etc., et al. The general response to these ads that I'm hearing is 'HUH' WTF is she talking about THAT for?
The recent debate was nothing more than a puppet show...neither won in my opinion; but Washingtonians lost. My 2-cents.

Puget Sound

toolish as always. try this. go to www.google.com
and plug in this line or a variation of:

"adult stem cell better than embryonic"

you will come up with a slew of articles. some of them from the pro life side so you need to then try this search item or a variation of
"adult stem cell worse than embryonic"
then go through those articles.

At the end of the day you'll get some good info on -and this is novel- from both sides and then you can decide which has more cred.


Gregoire's "stem cell" TV commercials make her looklike a desperate loser who's deathly afraid she'll be looking for a new place to live in January.

And I'm NOT a right-winger, BTW.

Puget Sound

it may be time to cut all ties, jump ship and plan for 2012...

Clintonistas Jump Ship


So I wonder what Dori and all you other tax-hating conservatives think about this morning's news that Paulson wants us not only to bail out his corporate Wall Street buddies, but all the foreign banks who want to unload their now-worthless American holdings as well? Just a coincidence that McCain's BFF and financial advisor Phil Graham is an executive with the American interests in UBS, the giant Swiss Bank?


Well, since you ostensibly changed to topic somewhat, how's this for A Possible Explanation .


I wonder if Dori reads the Wall Street Journal:

"If the Bush administration has its way, anyone harmed by the Treasury Department's handling of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout might have no remedy.

Draft legislation proposes sweeping powers for Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to buy and sell mortgage-related securities however he sees fit. Aside from requiring periodic reports to Congress, the bill provides no oversight of the bailout's management -- and specifically bars any court or agency from reviewing it."

I wonder if Dori knows that "Rick Davis, McCain's slimeball campaign manager, was paid $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group that was set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say. The McCain campaign stepped up a running battle of guilt by association when it began broadcasting commercials trying to link Obama directly to the government bailout of the mortgage giants this month by charging that he takes advice from Fannie Mae’s former chief executive, Franklin Raines, an assertion both Mr. Raines and the Obama campaign dispute.

Incensed by the ads, several current and former executives of the companies came forward to discuss the role that Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager and longtime adviser, played in helping Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac beat back regulatory challenges when he served as president of their advocacy group, the Homeownership Alliance, formed in the summer of 2000. Some who came forward were Democrats, but Republicans, speaking on the condition of anonymity, confirmed their descriptions....The McCain campaign stepped up a running battle of guilt by association when it began broadcasting commercials trying to link Obama directly to the government bailout of the mortgage giants this month by charging that he takes advice from Fannie Mae’s former chief executive, Franklin Raines, an assertion both Mr. Raines and the Obama campaign dispute.

Incensed by the ads, several current and former executives of the companies came forward to discuss the role that Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager and longtime adviser, played in helping Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac beat back regulatory challenges when he served as president of their advocacy group, the Homeownership Alliance, formed in the summer of 2000. Some who came forward were Democrats, but Republicans, speaking on the condition of anonymity, confirmed their descriptions."

So Dori, aren't people supposed to take responsibility for their decisions in life?


Whatever happened to the moosehunter? Her outdoor skills fall short in a Wall Street meltdown. that lipstick seems to have worn off. Wonder if McCain regrets not appointing Romney or Bloomberg? Wait til the numbers are in from the weekend polling. Republs are cooked. Let's talk about Britney Spears again, they'll wail.


Here’s Where she is, along with 60,000 of her friends.


What kind of fool could support Hillary Clinton AND Sarah Palin? Answer: One who judges women politicians on whether he wants to fuck them or not. Duffman likes MILFs.


Can't b;lame Duffman, ho wouldn't want to sleep with Sarah Palin? It is not only the Democrats who have the hot chicks.


OMG! This is another outrageous example of how the Religious Right has highjacked the Republican party. If I hear one more deceptive banality from D-No. ("reach across party lines", "protect the most vulnerable"), I'll ...screech across party lines.

Sleeping with ParaSailin' is one thing, but what are you gonna say in the morning? - "Is that Russia I see out your window?" I've noticed that she has been droppin' her g's and talkin' nu-cue-lar, like a true GWB cowgirl! Disgustin'!


This is from the conservative magazine The American Spectator.

The Palin pick and the post-convention bounce so enhanced the Republican Party's image that by Sept. 12, Gallup was reporting that the GOP had narrowed the gap on the so-called "generic" congressional ballot question -- where Democrats had enjoyed a 15-point advantage earlier this year -- to a slender three-point margin.

Even as these polls prompted one reporter to note a "growing sense of doom among Democrats," however, the Republican momentum was slipping away. On Wednesday, Gallup reported Obama had moved slightly ahead, and by Saturday, Gallup had the Democrat ahead by 6 points, 50-44 percent.

Other polls reported different numbers, but the overall trend was clear -- McCain, who had led nearly every survey taken Sept. 5-11, trailed in nearly every poll taken thereafter, resulting in a net 5-point shift toward Obama in the Real Clear Politics average.

WHAT HAPPENED? The timing of the McCain slump (or Obama surge, as the case may be) makes it difficult to distinguish the causes.

It was on Sept. 10 that ABC began airing the first network exclusive interview with Palin, with Charlie Gibson professorially peering over his glasses playing "stump the governor" by asking her about the Bush doctrine. Afterwards, at least according to a Research 2000 poll commissioned by the liberal DailyKos site, Palin's approval numbers took a nosedive, going from 52% positive to 41% positive in the space of eight days, while her negatives ratings rose from 35% to 46%.

However, it was during the same time frame that the slow-brewing financial crisis hit the meltdown stage. The takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was announced Sept. 6. Lehman Brothers stock began a death spiral Sept. 8. A week later came Black Monday, as stocks plummeted, Bank of America took over a collapsing Merrill Lynch, and the insurance giant AIG hit coffin corner.

Palin is only cool to the southern Baptists and Duffman.


So tell me, exactly what does that have to do with the current topic 'Dori: a tool in dino's box'...are you lost?


"FRY ME UP some of that Mr.D's Special pal, Big Stu the Trucker said as he plopped his lardass on the round diner counter stool. Sure is nice not having to look at some damn black person's face on the stool next to me, or hearing them talk their monkey jive.I tell my trucker buddies all over the country, Dori, if you get to Seattle you get your ass over to Mr.D's White's Only Affair Diner. Dori emerged from the kitchen wearing a white apron and his trademark goofball grin. "Boy howdy! Big Stu".........( Dori Monson said this summer on his KIRO radio show that he thinks he should have the right to legally open a whites only diner.)


"Can't b;lame Duffman, ho wouldn't want to sleep with Sarah Palin? It is not only the Democrats who have the hot chicks."

Posted by: Nevets | September 22, 2008 at 01:15 PM

Now why would someone want to pretend to be me? Sparky, can you tell me who posted that? You have stated before that you have access to the IP records.


Didn't think that sounded like you steven...go figure some of these folks have so little credence they will stoop to anything. Happens to me frequently between here and SP...and sometimes exclusively here. Very chicken****, but very attributable to some who post herein. Thx for verifying.


Yup, I thought we got rid of Nate.

Puget Sound

glad to see the real deal back in the blatherwatch saddle. welcome back pardoner.
i am also eagerly awaiting the results of "sparky's investigation." should be illuminating. i wonder which maroon pulled that out of their rumbleseat?

Puget Sound

Can you name something that McCain did at the behest of Rick Davis? You throw out the charge but where's the beef to it?
If anything, McCain was prescient and had the fix back in 2005. It was largely Dems that stopped the fix contained in bill S190 cosponsored by John McCain. Where was Obama? Probably above his paygrade, eh? He sure took a lot of their money though...using your logic it would appear Obama was on the take.

Great Bloomberg Article.

Obama has Fannie issue


I would not put it past the Democrats to keep this crisis going as long as they can because of perceived political advantage. Just as their actions demonstrated that they didn't care if they lost the war in Iraq.

The current state of the Democrat party is toxic, due in part to Bush Derangement Syndrome and now their disdain for McCain/Palin - their actions have put their politics ahead of our nation's security and meeting near term energy demands and they may also do so for our economic well-being. I hope that I am wrong here.

Puget Sound

Poor week for Biden. A few gaffes. Came to light his story about his helicopter' being 'forced down' while in Afghanistan wasn't due to enemy fire, rather it was due to ...snow. hmmm, different connotation.

Even John Kerry was ribbing Biden

Then he goes on the record stating that the Obama Internet Ad on McCain -who is disabled- was in poor taste which is decidedly off message.

And lest not forget his story blaming the death of his wife on a drunk driver turns out to be false...and the family of the other driver isn't taking it lightly. Stop smearing my dad is what they are asking of Biden. It was tragic but no one knows why Mrs. Biden didn't see the truck as she pulled out on the highway. But it certainly wasn't due to the other driver being drunk. He was cleared of that back in 1972.

I can't wait for the debate.

Puget Sound

KS I hope you are wrong but the facts look different. Using Nutroot inuendo logic -excuse me while I adjust the tin foil hat on my head- I will offer the following:
In November,
Which Party will do better if the war goes badly?

Which Party will do better if the economy stays in the tank?

Which Party will do better if oil prices continue to run up?

Now to be fair to the Dems it isn't like their leadership has declared the war lost (ooops, I guess Harry Reid did didn't he and all Dems worked against the Surge); stalled out reforms of the Fannie and Freddie (oops, turns out Dodd, Frank, Shumer did by killing the McCain bill to reform GSE's in 2005); or, refused to let us drill for oil where we know where it is at (ooops, Pelosi and the Dems stalled us on offshore/anwar drilling).


I am just glad that the ones I am voting for will not benefit by the above. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not attacking their patriotism. Just their judgement.
I am sure these same Dems fly the American flag that I fly at home.
The big difference is that I have never thought it a good idea to put a match to old Glory.

Joanie, you can have your tin foil hat back.


steven,you are perpetuating a myth. I once mused that I would have to "go find out" about who was posting. but lucky for you guys, Bla'M maintains your privacy. I have told you this several times. I cant help it if you gentlemen make wild leaps of assumptions about what I "mean" all the time.


What is it that bothers me about Obama ?

He is all for income redistribution and with his tax plan, 40% of those who he reimburses for his tax cut do not pay taxes. He is a Robin Hood and promotes socialism. His universal health care will incorporate over 12 million illegal aliens. Earlier, he also signed on to the notion of donating $750 billion in taxpayer revenue to the UN to fight world poverty. There is no way this grandiose economic scheme will reduce the deficit - quite the contrary, it will accelerate the increase in our deficit if these plans are adopted and with a Democratic Congress majority, most of them will be adopted.

This type of economic strategy will make the Bush economy in retrospect look good. He is the most leftwing and inexperienced candidate to run for president in at least the last 50 years.

Puget Sound

Not sure why anyone wanted to hunt down ISPs in the first place. I'm just saying it sounds a little weird. What would it accomplish to have one of us knock on Chuck's or Duff's door anyway? For what purpose? Sounds weird and I am thankful that Blam has a privacy policy to keep our info out of your hands. Just probably saying what others are thinking in that regard so Hat Tip to Blam.

Lucky for us that in addition to maintain our privacy Blam is also a big 1st Amendment kind of guy. Which has to be a little painful at times but I do send another appreciative Hat Tip in his direction for same.


I didnt "throw" anything out there. It was all over the news today, including an article in the NYTimes.

I heard about the ads that tie Barack Obama to Fannie and Freddie execs but they were later refuted by Frank Raines when he had to call off Carly (of the "No one could run Hewlett Packard" fame) from her lies about it. The Washington Post called it a stretch at best. But Rick Davis received $30,000 a month from Freddie and Fannie because of his access to John McCain to lobby against regulation. What did McCain get out of it? Power and money for his campaign. And because they were pissed about that, they tried to have a conference call this morning with the media, and as all the points the NYTimes made were proven to be true, that conference call ended up being a disaster. Davis would have been better off to say "yeah, so what?"

Last night on 60 Minutes, McSame still maintained that financial regulations were not necessary. Of course, today he said just the opposite.

Puget Sound

on a personal basis, that whole baby infanticide practice Obama supports really bothers me. it makes my skin crawl. this isn't about abortion. this is about a baby that has survived and is out of the womb. 98-0 to include pro choice (abortion) dems like Kennedy and Boxer voted to outlaw this horrid practice. Obama is for this practice.

Obama -with an identical bill in the Illinois State Senate voted and went to the floor to speak against outlawing this form of infanticide.

Puget Sound

they sure didn't get anything from McCain. He tried to reform the two GSEs -did you read the Bloomberg article or the Wall Street Journal article I linked?

McCain -and it is in the record see bill S190- tried to reform but couldn't get the Dems on the Fannie and Freddie Teet to do so. Barney Frank refused to do anything about it. So the bill died.

Again, it looks like McCain saw the problem and took steps to reform. He sounded the warning back in 2005.


Puts, it was nice vacation. Had a great time. I missed alot but will not get into old stuff. I think I missed Chucks in Vegas. Was down Tuesday and Wednsday. Lost only $50 bucks after being ahead over $250. Maybe next time.

As I recall Sparky, you said you needed to go "look it up". And that wasn't the only time you seemed to know "who was who".

And there goes the imposter again. (Above post) Oh well, must be new to the BW, dosn't know the little details that some use that make them unique.

Rum and Dum talking about McCains cars. LOL. To bad they didn't get the whole story that only one of those cars is actually in his name. And it is American. What losers they are. When are they going back to the "Chocolate City"


Dori had that sound bite today of Dino and his office pool about how many times Gregoire was going to blame President Bush for the states deficit. It was hollersass. Who is she running for Gov. against, Dino or Bush?


Watching a little bit of Husseins speech today from Green Bay. Couldn'ening? Will Wisconsin fall to the Republicans this year.

Sparky, what is your electoral cahead in some key states that would put him over the 270 mark.

Puget Sound

If you want a laugh, someone finally put together a spot on impression of Keith Olberman and his oh so special comments. hopefully we can all agree this assclown needs spoofing.

So funny even the folks at HuffPo approved it.

Double Meat Sir, means Double. Jared how do you live with yourself...


Dino Rossi is playing games with the ballot by billing himsself as Dino Rossi, GOP . A study shows this results in confusion aong voters and a 4 point advantage for him if he is listed like this instead of Dino Rossi, Republican. This is obviously deceitful and manipulative bullshit. Republican has been the standard handle forever, not GOP. Who the fuck puts GOP on their state ballot? Monson had the local Dem Party spokesman on to talk about the lawsuit they have over this. Monson took the side of Dino, of course and was an even more than ususal, insufferable, smartass twerp, laughing and snickering at the fellow, trying to portray rheir postion as clownish and ridiculous. Are the voters in ths state that dumb? he asked over and over, with faux, exaggerated mirth. it made me so angry to listen this arrogant, snide little pissant Dori Monson trivialize this attempt at election chicanery by Rossi. It's not up to the voters to be smart enough to know what GOP means. This isn't an IQ or trivia test. There are a lot of young voters and recently naturalized citizens ho don't know what it means, as well as others who obviously don't understand, hence the difference in the poll numbers. 4 points is huge. Monson and Rossi should be willing to just go back to Republican to avoid any accusations of deceit and vote fraud. The fact that Monson protested so loudly with such phony laughter an Mockery tells me that he sees an unfair advantage here that he wants Rossi to keep, in hopes of getting his hero elected.


Every time I see Dino on the TV talking about reaching across the isle I think about all the billboards in Spokane that say, "Don't let Seattle steal this one."

Yea, that's reachin' across to make nice.


Why is Dino afraid to say he is Republican?

Puget Sound

Too late, if you do that you are gonna disenfranchise the military vote as the ballots went out. The time to cry about this was a few weeks ago.
But hell, disenfranchising the military is an old Dem trick. Anyone recall what Gore tried in 2000 during the recount? If in doubt, I can pull it up and post.


When did the democratic party get so pussified that it had to worry about GOP vs Republican? Tommy, you are usually one of the toughest posters here and to hear you whinning is strange.
You should just shut up and come with a new moniker for the dems next time arround.
Maybe the Robin Hood party or the don't you worry about working, we will pay your way party.
You clowns have registered enough ACORN magic people to handle any thing that may come up.


The Dem Party guy told Dori that they had no intention of challenging the military ballots, or even recalling ballots that had gone out. Not many thousands of ballots have gone out so far and millions of ballots are yet to go out-it's the millons they are worried about. I can see why Dori clings to supporting this crap, since he's not logical, courageous or rational but i can't understand how you Repubs here don't see how fraudulent and dishonest this "GOP" crap is? If you believe in yourself as a Republican, you should be condident, straightup and proud enough to identify yourself as an R on the ballot, not hope to weasel some bogus extra votes by confusing the dimmer bulbs among the electorate, who wouldn't normally vote Republican. Gregoire isn't hiding behind a confusing party name, she's saying what she is- a Democrat. I was slightly interested in voting for Rossi, but after this- no way. Why would Rossi and Dori want to give the Dems grounds to challenge the elcetion if Rossi wins? I believe a challenge of this crap would win in court.If it doesn't make any difference just switch back to R on the ballot and avoid legal worries.


"dimmer bulbs among the electorate"

More like

"dimmer bulbs among the Librals"

If you Libs don't know what GOP stands for you should go back to schoo there. Maybe the Government can help you fill out your ballot.

Talking about bailouts, where is the uproar from the Libs about bailing out the auto industry to the tune of $25 billion.

I liked how Dori got that idiot when he mentioned gregoire by "Chris" instead by Dori. I missed the last part. Anyone know if he blew a fuse.

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