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  • HorsesAss.Org: the straight poop on WA politics & the press
    progressive brilliance from the guy who pointed out Tim Eyman's nascent horse's-assedness
  • Talker's Magazine
    The quirky talk radio trade mag. Check the Talk Radio Research Project- it's not very scientific, but places on the top 15 talkers list (scroll down to Talk Radio Audiences By Size)) are as hotly contested as Emmys (and mean just about as much).
  • The Advocate
    No, not THAT Advocate... it's the Northwest Progressive Institute's Official Blog.
  • Media Matters
    Documentation of right-wing media in video, audio and text.
  • Orcinus
    home of David Neiwert, freelance investigative journalist and author who writes extensively about far-right hate groups
  • Hominid Views
    "People, politics, science, and whatnot" Darryl is a statistician who fights imperialism with empiricism, gives good links and wry commentary.
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    An 11 on the Manly Scale of Absolute Gender, a 12 on the Heavenly Scale of the 10 Commandments and a 6 on the earthly scale of the Immaculately Groomed.
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    Howie Martin is the Abe Linkin' of progressive Seattle.
  • Streaming Radio Guide
    Hellishly long (5795!) list of radio streaming, steaming on the Internets.
  • The Naked Loon
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    "informs, challenges, soothes and/or berates, and does so with a pleasing vocal cadence and unmatched enunciation. When you listen to IPR, integrity washes over you like lava, with the pleasing familiarity of a medium-roast coffee and a sensible muffin."
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  • Northwest Broadcasters
    The AM, FM, TV and digital broadcasters of Northwest Washington, USA and Southwest British Columbia, Canada. From Kelso, WA to the northern tip of Vancouver Island, BC - call letters, formats, slogans, networks, technical data, and transmitter maps. Plus "recent" news.
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    The Internet's chronicle of media decay.
  • The Moderate Voice
    The voice of reason in the age of Obama, and the politics of the far-middle.
  • News Hounds
    Dogged dogging of Fox News by a team who seems to watch every minute of the cable channel so you don't have to.
  • HistoryLink
    Fun to read and free encyclopedia of Washington State history. Founded by the late Walt Crowley, it's an indispensable tool and entertainment source for history wonks and surfers alike.

right-wing blogs we like

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I love this column! It took me a while to totally love Rachel. Still a few very minor peeves but really a nice person who is well informed, courageous in her convictions and honest in her reporting. And I like watching her better even than listening to her.

I heard that on the simulcast and it got kind of uncomfortable. Scarborough just couldn't let it go and Rachel was at the top of her "I'm right and you're not" game. I loved it.

Scarborough always strikes me as being a covert snot anyway. I like his views sometimes but you always get the feeling that beneath the surface is a privileged brat. The same feeling I get when I watch Gingrich. Ew! on both of them.

Gay Gary

Clinton cackle

I don't know who Rachel Maddow is but that line is classic! As a gay man I get angry when fellow gays and lesbians play into - by playing up-to - media stereotypes.

If she's in the media in some capacity and wants to put herself out there as a representative of the queer community she needs to make an attempt to look not quite as gross. In the picture it looks like she's wearing a GAP shirt and a digital Timex? UGH. And please, the angry crew-cut is like -- WHA?

As a community we've come so far but we still can't make that final leap by supporting the image of sexy lesbians in the media and calling-out those who aren't. It's really frustrating to me sometimes.


Great post.. Joe Scarborough is nothing but a filthy smear artist who tries to occasionally mask his brand of political ugliness with feigned objectivity - he's the "Eddie Haskell" of pundits. I saw that episode of "Race to the White House" that he hosted and it was downright pathetic, what a petulant and intellectually small man he is. This isn't a slam to Hillary Clinton, but the behavior of Joe last week is simply karma to all of the HRC supporters who thought that he had their best interests at heart and unfortunately decided to post clips of that moron to make their case against Obama.


Joe was never a Hillary supporter..he was just another RW pundit who was hoping she would win so he could gleefully scrape up any juicy gossip about her.
Rachel has more smarts in her left little finger than Joe has in his whole body. He knows it, she knows it, and MSNBC knows it. As soon as the election is over, there will be no need for the Race to the WhiteHouse show, and I expect they will get Rachel on the air, on her own show as soon as they can.

Unfortunately, the network probably just loves it when Joe behaves in this way because it means ratings everytime they appear together.

GG, I am disappointed in your superficial sounding reaction to Rachel. If you ever listened to her, you would realize that she neither hides nor promotes her sexuality. Her looks mean nothing on the radio, and if it really matters to you, they "pretty" her up for her television appearances. Can't have someone looking too much like a lesbian, apparently. If you really are a gay man, I would think you would find it revolting that anyone would focus more on her looking "butch" and less on her impressive intelligence. She represents all the smart women everywhere, regardless of their sexual preference.


Joe still hasn't explained the intern found dead in his office when he was in Congress and resigned shortly thereafter.


Also, Joe is a lousy debater, if you look back at an earlier Race for the WH video,
Huffy Joe

Joe gets the last word in after Rachel insists on making her point and then the audio hears Joe removing his mic and suddenly his face is gone from the panel of the 4 others shown.

Gay Gary

GG, I am disappointed in your superficial sounding reaction to Rachel. If you ever listened to her, you would realize that she neither hides nor promotes her sexuality. Her looks mean nothing on the radio, and if it really matters to you, they "pretty" her up for her television appearances. Can't have someone looking too much like a lesbian, apparently.

Well I've never listened to her (I guess she's on radio?) but that's okay if they make her look a tad less groddy for TV. Even just a little bit helps! As for looks, I'm sick of people giving peoples looks second-shrift as though they don't matter. They *do* matter.


Gay Gary- now lesbians must obey gay male fashion laws like straight men do? shit.


Disappointing, Gigi. You call yourself a flaming whatever so why call her on anything? Esp. if you've never watched or listened to her.

She sounds and acts very conventional. Integrity dictates that she disclose influences because she's a commentator and editorializes. And on TV she's actually very pretty. As if that matters...

Try tearing yourself away from the manly men on KVI and listen/watch her: 3:00 on 1090 (when David Bender, another gay guy, isn't subbing - but that's another story.).


Tonight on TGTL Jen Andrews chuckled adoringly at Luke's "funnies", Luke mentioned his girlfriend Furnessa once again, and demonstrated what a passive aggressive freak he is. Under that controlled mask of studied, "coolcat" irony lies not a hip Daddio of the new millenium, but a vicious wolverine, a man who, as Gay Gary noted, once wished for anyone who criticizes him to have been molested in childhood.


I listened to Ross off and on this morning. He was silly. He talked a lot and sounded kind of weird. Sort of pumped up on something. Probably just sunshine in his case but still, he was weird.

Speaking of silly, I am very tired of Lee Callahan on KPTK. She's created these nonsense - supposed to be cute and funny - little psa's for environmentally-friendly ideas.

I like the ideas but would prefer to get them straight. I hate "cute."

Just found out that Seder will be in for Malloy tomorrow. I love Seder!

Today radioland has been a wasteland.

Gay Gary

Gay Gary- now lesbians must obey gay male fashion laws like straight men do? shit.


OK, so I watched this Rachel chick from an April MSNBC show (it was the only one I could find on YouTube) and she was a total you-know-what! She kept yelling at Joe not to interrupt her but she wouldn't shut-up for 2 seconds to let anyone else talk … who filibusters a TV show?!!?!! LOL!

That said, however, Harold Ford Jr. was a MEGA-HUNK!!! Let's see and hear more of him and less of old man Scarborough and the Rachel lady! Even you straight arrows have to agree with me on this one. Are you guys with me or what? AuthenticAndrew? Ford Jr. – hot or not?

Try tearing yourself away from the manly men on KVI and listen/watch her: 3:00 on 1090 (when David Bender, another gay guy, isn't subbing - but that's another story.).

Well the only national shows I really listen to since Drudge went off-air are Coast to Coast AM and occasionally Democracy Now (now there’s a less-than-attractive lady – Amy Goodman – but what a FABULOUS voice … what a female radio host should sound like).

Gay Gary

Speaking of Amy Goodman’s, I remember Dori did this as a topic like a year ago, but what are people’s favorite news-talk radio voices?

My Top Locals are:
#5 – Don O’Neil
#4 – Phil Van Vort, Jean Lockhart (sp? – the lady who does the news on the weekends on KIRO occasionally) or Elisa Woodward (TIE)
#3 – Greg Herschel
#2 – Bill Yeend
#1 – Dave Ross or Lion Archer (TIE)

My Top Nationals are:
#5 – Billy Bush
#4 – Don Imus
#3 – Amy Goodman
#2 – Bob Brinker
#1 – Art Bell (counts b/c he’s still O/A occasionally)

Worst Local Voices:
#5 – David Goldstein (even though he’s not on anymore this is an honorary since it was the worst in the history of radio, perhaps even radio-telephonic communication more generally)
#4 – Carleen Johnson
#3 – Ron Upshaw
#2 – Dori Monson
#1 – Jenn Anderson

Gay Gary

By "voice" I don't mean the "words", just the tone & timbre.


Off the top of my head four worst:

Amy Goodman - she drive me nuts!
Lee Callahan
Lionel - whose voice I used to like late at night but can't tolerate in the early AM. I think he used to be more interesting.

I can't count Goldstein. When he subbed for Ross and modulated, he was fine. But on his own show, shrill, shrill, shrill.

Best: Ross, Groz (KJR)
Best female: Rehm; Craft(to whom I'm currently listening on KGO)
Honorable mention: Maddow (she laughs funny - doesn't always sound genuine to me.

Names keep coming so I'm sure I'll think of more. You are so organized, Gigi.


Joe wants to bend Rachel over and teach her how to be a woman.

Gay Gary

Names keep coming so I'm sure I'll think of more. You are so organized, Gigi.

I iron my socks!


I'd have to add Jane Shannon's voice to the best female list.


That's not organized. That's compulsive.


Sparky is an idiot....and who made the comment about the Frat House...Joe never even joined a Frat in college...y'all area bunch of blogging idiots who make up lies to try to hurt people...grow up!


Hey, chucks, did you hear that Iraq wants us to leave? Hmmm?

Winning? If they want us gone, doesn't that mean we've won and should leave?

I'd love to see Rachel take over Meet the Press. I'd start watching it again. She'd find guests who were not the usual suspects repeating the same inside-Washington pc hogwash over and over. That would be refreshing.

Meet the Press - a show old men sit and watch with their fathers. (Now where did I hear that?)


But what do the people of Iraq want?
The folks that I am aware of want us to leave. Just not yet.
Anyway, we can't leave until Iran is fixed. They have/are building weapons of mass destruction and are threatening to use them on our allies and our troops. I am certain that you understand that Miss Joanie.


oh, chucks, where do you get such information? Really. Where? Point me to the source of that incredibly ignorant information.

BTW, replying to Sparkie's post, you said China was too far away. Across which ocean are you looking?


I did not discuss China with Sparky. At least I did not have that conversation with Spark.
Arramadamadingdong has ordered the digging of some 300,000 graves to bury our troops in.
He needs a spanking, and I don't mean that in the good way.


Arramadamadingdong has ordered the digging of some 300,000 graves to bury our troops in.

Where'd you get it? C'mon chucks. You pulled it out of your proverbial a** didn't you?

China: sparky gave you a perfectly analogized example of our presence in Iraq. You said China wouldn't invade us - too far away. 'Member now?

Good discussion online on Ed Schultz right now. Get yourself some more learnin' - they are discussing Limbaugh off and on and how his show is for "entertainment purposes only" and facts are not guaranteed.

He give you the dirt on the grave digging?


I think that your China issue is with nevets Miss Joanie.
At work right now, I can't listen to the radio.


We cannot leave until Iran is fixed? We can not win a guerilla war, just like we could not win in Vietnam. Only crazy people who aren't even mainstream republicans believe we should stay.


The war that our military can not win does not, nor ever has existed.
Your lack of faith in our military is unfounded.
We have been fighting a guerrilla war in Iraq. In case you have not been paying attention, our guys are kicking ass. Shit, even Jack Murtha and Pulosi had to admit that. I get great joy watching them cringe and spin while they are forced to concede victory to our troops.
It must suck to have to concede victory after declaring defeat.
But they need not worry, many of us will still consider the defeatocrats as losers, even in victory.


We're still there, after 5 years. Still there in Afghanistan, after 7....looks like your shit is fucked up. How many homeless vets is this going to create?


Forget China. You didn't post a stupid comment about china but about Iran. Now back it up if you can.

Of course you listen to the radio . . . while you're playing on the computer.


It's obscene the fantasies that turn chucks on. It's obscene to take such pleasure in so much killing and maiming of our kids and the Iraqis.

Pitiful, chucks. Just pitiful.

Gay Gary

I wish everyone on this blog could be friends.


News Flash: Iraq wants us out ASAP, and wants a time table to do so. Watching Hardball right now and even McCain is quoted that if they want us out, that is what we said we would do.
I will bet that doesn't include long term presence, what with that multi billion dollar embassy going in.


OH My bad...Mccain is now saying he doesn't think that the Iraq government really wants us to leave. And another person in the government said that they would have to see how things go.

Why did I think anything would be different...


I think we are friends. Just an occasional, moderate disagreement.


That's what prompted this conversation. It isn't only Maliki but other Iraqi officials have commented as well. Chucks doesn't care what

I guess he thinks Iraq is his toy country just like all the kids that are dying are toy soldiers to him.

Nadler was just on with David Bender and both agreed this FISA bill is redundant because the old one make illegal wire taps illegal but this new one has more questionable things in it.

Hopefully, Nadler said, the AG in the next admin will look into it on the criminal side.


Nothing moderate about you. You are one of a very small percentage of people that think we should still be there.


I do not care if I am the only one that thinks we should still be there. The job is not yet done. We need to stay until it is done.
What have you done with all of the men in Seattle? You can't have feminized all of them. Is there any testosterone left in that burg?


Feminized means thinking with your brain, making decisions following informed analysis? And still make a woman happy?

If you are an example of a "real man," then I'll take "feminized." No Barney Rubble for me, chucks.

Coiler seems like someone who can walk and chew gum at the same time. Not sure 'bout you...

As for being the decider, sorry that job is filled, at least until January. One of you is enough.

You know, you sound like you think Iraq should be our fifty-second state. That would solve our oil problem, wouldn't it?


Make that fifty-first! Sorry 'bout that. Of course, we could always add Iran. Might be easier to get their oil that way than starting a third war.

Not as much for for the testosterone-addicted, however.


58th joanie.
We have 57 now. per u know who.
No, if Iraq were to become a state, all oil production would be cut off by congress. We must rely on "foreign" sources for oil. Can't be drilling for that stuff here.


Yes, those sweet little oil companies who always want more. I wonder...will they ever use the ones they have?

Naw. It's simple economics, stupid: too much oil and we'll have to bring the price down. Why would we want to do that...?


Feminized also means politically corrected, easy to offend and wussified when applied to males.

The dysfunctional women's lib movement had a lot to do with that big mistake, which led to other dysfunction like confusion in roles, broken families, etc.. Not saying that a women's lib movement wasn't needed, but Gloria Steinem's and the others were bad role models and the rest is history.

Gay Gary

I think we are friends. Just an occasional, moderate disagreement.


Here's what I'm assigning everyone to bring:

Joanie - potato salad

Gay Gary - Corona

Oculus Bleu - Gay Gary

Chucks - tuna casserole

KS - gardenburgers

Puget Sound - laptop computer with WiFi card, speakers and the KKOL homepage bookmarked so we can stream it online during the picnic and have some background buzz (how on earth did they listen to radio outdoors before laptops with WiFi?)

Sparky - American Flag

Wild Bill - Luke Burbank

AuthenticAndrew - the funk

Bryan Suits - TBD

Who am I missing?


OK Gary
But those of us with cwp's should probably leave our toys home. I think a couple of these folks get upset over the littlest things.

Gay Gary

But those of us with cwp's should probably leave our toys home.

Sorry everyone, picnic's off. I don't step out of the shower without at least my CZ-75 ... outdoors I'm pretty much a walking Blackwater armory (in slightly brighter - usually pastel - colors).


OK, maybe I was a little hasty. Proper tools for any job is important. I'm kinda old fashioned though. Python is my tool of choice. Very uncomplicated and reliable.


Chucks, I'm still with you. Even those Iraqis that Joanie talked about think it will take 3-5 years before we can bring our troops home. Do you think Hartman, Miller, Randi, Bender, or Seder will bring that tidbit of info up on the radio. Naw, that would make Hussein look foolish thinking he could bring them home in 16 months when the Iraqi government thinks it would take alot longer..

As far as Iran. The only talk of attacking Iran I hear is coming from those on the left. A scare tactic to get votes for their Hussein. Just like his namesake did in the 80's.


tuna casserole, potato salad, garden burgers and Corona?

That's it?


What's for dessert? (It better be chocolate...)

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