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July 12, 2008

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joanie

McCain is voice-challenged. He just doesn't communicate well.

He reminds me of Bush that way. Bush sounded good in sound bites in 2000 to me; but, when I listened to several sentences strung together, he lost his charm.

KS

McCain needs to be McCain, the maverick. He has come across as to politically correct, out of character for him. He is not the flowery communicator like Obama who is slick at saying words but short on taking action. McCain has a history of getting things done and reaching across the aisle to do so and needs to convey this.

With all due respect, he also needs to explain how he intends to balance the budget within 4 years, while keeping the Bush Tax cuts intact. Perhaps he should have phrased that differently, because I have no idea how that will occur without hearing the details. Lowering the deficit is an absolute must.

sparky

McCain's handlers must want him to lose. His scripted appearances are painful to watch and listen to--even Republican pundits say so. To put him out there, even on radio, to read something someone else wrote is not going to put him in the best light.

KS

Interesting - the scare tactics of McCain being Bush III don't seem to be getting that much attention. (see below)

Rasmussen Reports: July 11, 2008

The race for the White House is tied. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, Obama holds a statistically insignificant 47% to 46% advantage. Today is the first time that McCain’s support has moved above 45% since Obama clinched the nomination on June 3. It’s also the first time the candidates have been tied since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day (see recent demographic highlights).
For most of the past month-and-a-half, Obama has led McCain by approximately five percentage points. It remains to be seen whether this recent tightening of the race reflects real change or is merely statistical noise. Check out our weekly review—What They Told Us—to see what was on voters’ minds this past week.

Obama is hard to figure, but its a good bet that he would be a combination of Carter, Dukakis and Kerry in a more nuanced package. People are getting pissed off the Dems obstructionist approach to no new drilling and their archaic energy policy being trumpted by Obama and the Dems. That could affect the outcome of many races in November if they persist in their stupidity.

My guess is that they will cave before the elections and allow offshore drilling after they see their poll numbers slipping.

KS

Interesting - the scare tactics of McCain being Bush III don't seem to be getting that much attention. (see below)

Rasmussen Reports: July 11, 2008

The race for the White House is tied. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, Obama holds a statistically insignificant 47% to 46% advantage. Today is the first time that McCain’s support has moved above 45% since Obama clinched the nomination on June 3. It’s also the first time the candidates have been tied since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day (see recent demographic highlights).
For most of the past month-and-a-half, Obama has led McCain by approximately five percentage points. It remains to be seen whether this recent tightening of the race reflects real change or is merely statistical noise. Check out our weekly review—What They Told Us—to see what was on voters’ minds this past week.

Obama is hard to figure, but its a good bet that he would be a combination of Carter, Dukakis and Kerry in a more nuanced package. People are getting pissed off the Dems obstructionist approach to no new drilling and their archaic energy policy being trumpted by Obama and the Dems. That could affect the outcome of many races in November if they persist in their stupidity.

My guess is that they will cave before the elections and allow offshore drilling after they see their poll numbers slipping.

KS

Oops sorry for the double post. Another poll indicates that the race for POTUS is far from over and Mr. Obama has slipped lately in the latest Newsweek Poll.

A month after emerging victorious from the bruising Democratic nominating contest, some of Barack Obama's glow may be fading. In the latest NEWSWEEK Poll, the Illinois senator leads Republican nominee John McCain by just 3 percentage points, 44 percent to 41 percent. The statistical dead heat is a marked change from last month's NEWSWEEK Poll, where Obama led McCain by 15 points, 51 percent to 36 percent.

Obama's rapid drop comes at a strategically challenging moment for the Democratic candidate. Having vanquished Hillary Clinton in early June, Obama quickly went about repositioning himself for a general-election audience--an unpleasant task for any nominee emerging from the pander-heavy primary contests and particularly for a candidate who'd slogged through a vigorous primary challenge in most every contest from January until June. Obama's reversal on FISA legislation, his support of faith-based initiatives and his decision to opt out of the campaign public-financing system left him open to charges he was a flip-flopper. In the new poll, 53 percent of voters (and 50 percent of former Hillary Clinton supporters) believe that Obama has changed his position on key issues in order to gain political advantage.

Fuck Neo-Cons

And McCain is fucking old! How old? So old even Wilford Brimley won't vote for him

sparky

The oil companies already have over 6,000 leases to drill. They could be out there drilling right now.

They don't want to, or need to, to pad their wallets.

If Congress approves any more drilling because it is only to make the public THINK they are doing something. If they say "go ahead and drill in ANWR tomorrow" it will not change the price of a tank of gas.

The oil companies are not interested in increasing the oil on hand. If Congress wants to do something, they could regulate the oil speculations on the stock market. While we pay more and more at the pump, the oil companies are making a killing on the stock market.
T. Boone Pickens, a staunch neo-con even says we can't drill our way out of this.

nevets

Hey Sparky, yes they have permits and leases to drill. But as I mentioned before many of these permits are being challenged in the courts for one reason or the other. And true, like Gregoires pet projects, Opening up ANWR will not bring the price down overnight but it is a step toward getting us off the ARAB oil you so much hate. Or at least thats what you say. If ten years ago they had opened ANWR, that oil would be replacing almost a million barrels a day from Saudia Arabia. Isn't this what you want?

nevets

Sparky, you see the news in Alaska. A volcano erupted and you know what they send into the air don't you? Global Warming, what a crock.

nevets

Also, speaking of windmills, I was on I-90 the other day and noticed not one of them Windmills was spinning. Guess they are not as reliable as one might think.

nevets

Anyone want to guess who F*&K Neo Con listens to on the radio.

nevets

Also Sparky, did you hear what is happening on Mt Shasta. The Glaciers are growing. Go figure.

joanie

Against my better judgment, I post:

But as I mentioned before many of these permits are being challenged in the courts for one reason or the other.

And as I responded before - a response that sent you skedaddling - you never sourced nor proved that these leases were being held up in court.

It is your guess that they are being held up in court. No source that I've read anywhere has stipulated that.

You're a fraud, Steven.

And anybody that thinks it is a supply and demand issue, just tell me where the lines are so I'm sure to avoid them, pleeeeeese.


And if you understood global warming, you would understand that shifts in the ice floes, structure of ice, amount of rainfall, is part of the warming equation.

You show just so much stupidity, Steven, it is hard not to call you stupid.

Sparky is much too nice.

joanie

I've spent a lot of time listening to various people analyzing the FISA vote and it's effect on Obama's candidacy.

It gets down to two issues: If he hadn't voted for the bill as is, the repugs would have beaten him up on it mercilessly because they don't have much else (just Michelle and his not-being a muslim). So, any deviation from full support would have given the right fodder for their smear campaign.

On the other hand, so many Americans are sick to death of the duplicity, lying, warmongering and corruption over the last eight years that his failure to keep his promise and filibuster or at least vote for a bill that was apparently sure to be vetoed by Bush who absolutely must have immunity for the criminal telecoms has people concerned that he's not authentic.

Which is it?

Are so many people still so stupid that they would be swayed by a right-wing hate machine that would spew out accusations that he's weak on security just because he thinks criminals should be held accountable?

That's what people are saying. I just can't believe it would work this time. Most people are so tired of this conservative stupidity and corruption, that I hope he didn't hurt himself more by reversing his decision.

Going to the middle is one thing. The middle isn't the middle anymore. The middle is so far right that those of us who are on the far left are in despair.

So are a lot of other people. I hope he made the right choice. Whatever, I have to believe he thought it was a matter of necessity.


And KS, this is why he's dipped in the polls. My guess is that in a few weeks this will all be forgotten and he'll be back on top. I'm sorry, but McBush simply cannot stay out of trouble. Nobody has to spend time looking for rocks over which he'll fall; they are all in plain sight.

What's funny is how often he's on record lying when responding to questions. If anybody listened to Peter B. tonight, Scott Dick (exmilitary) and Peter were playing clips of McBush answering questions from a vet at a town meeting and the vet was taking him to task for saying one thing when the vet knew McBush had voted other ways several times. And the vet kept pushing. McBush didn't get mad but he didn't have much in the way of answers either.

McBush is going to get a burn from all the smoke and mirrors he's walking around with.

sparky

steven, I am not going to try to explain to you all the things that are happening, or not happening, because of global warming. Instead, let me ask you this...

You can argue if you want whether or not humans are the cause of climate change, but, if by changing some of our behaviors, we can help SLOW the process, or not cause any additional harm, then why not do it?
Pretty much the entire rest of the world is willing to take steps to reduce pollution and take other measures to slow the warming caused by C2 emissions. The United States was on its way to joining the effort, until Bush got into office.
Did you hear his farewell comment to the G8 leaders? He said, with a smirk and a laugh, "Goodbye from the world's greatest polluter!!"
He thought it was funny.

This from The Independent:

"Scientists are warning that an Antarctic ice shelf the size of Northern Ireland is on the verge of disintegration, even though it is now the middle of the southern hemisphere's winter.

The European Space Agency says new satellite pictures show that the Wilkins shelf – the largest to be threatened so far – is "hanging by its last thread". Extending for approximately 5,600 square miles, it has been held in place by a thin ice bridge connecting it to an island, but this is now fracturing.

The shelf, which lies near the base of the Antarctic Peninsula, had not been expected to collapse until the early 2020s. It provides further evidence that the planet is warming more quickly than predicted.

Scientists are stunned that it is continuing to melt in the depths of winter, and believe that warm water is welling up from the ocean to attack it from underneath. So far seven shelves on the peninsula have collapsed due to climate change.

On Friday, President Bush – who last week told the G8 summit "Goodbye from the world's greatest polluter" – defied a 2007 ruling by the US Supreme Court to take action on global warming under the Clean Air Act."


This summer, for the first time, there is no ice at the friggin' North Pole.

I have no illusions about trying to educate you or change your mind about the cause of all this. But, again, I ask you...if we can do something about it by using alternative sources of fuel that dont affect the atmosphere, consuming less, recycling more...
why not at least try?

sparky

That should be, C02 emissions.

nevets

Joanie, try that link above. You will see a story of one such case. And I'm sure i can find more but whats the use, you wont read them.

nevets

Any video on that President Bush remark.

You might want to look up what Glaciers do Sparky. Your Ice Shelf bit is just a natural occurance that happens evey 10-20 years or so. Remember the one that broke away that was the size of Delaware or Rhode Island about 30 years ago. They break away all the time. No big deal.

Now why does this happen. Glaciers move, they move downward because of the weight. On the Continent of Antartica there are thousand of Glaciers and there is only on way to go, to the sea. What happens when a glacier meets an Ice Shelf. The Ice Shelf breaks off and the Glacier wins the rights to the spot. And then a new Ice Shelf is formed until the Glacier wants that spot also.

Now your North Pole bit. I read that story but I didn't read into it that the North Pole was all melted. The story was that for the first time there might not be any ice at the North Pole. How you came to that conclusion that it has already happened, I dont know, care to explain.

And FYI, there is still ice at the North Pole.

nevets

But you still didn't answer what we should do in the short term. Do you really like the idea of $10.00 a gallon?

joanie

Yes, $10 a gallon gas is fine with me.

How long did you have to google to find one? And if you think one makes your case, good luck.

And one ice shelf disintegrating twenty or thirty years ago isn't the same as the havoc being created currently. I don't recall "extinction" of animal species being discussed when that ice shelf broke away.

There is very good evidence which I posted long, long ago that this warming is different than any other ever recorded.

Also, anybody who doesn't think the amount of CO2 and methane being deposited in the air doesn't make a difference is simply devoid of common sense and unworthy of debate. It is evident on its face.

But it is pointless to argue with you experts in your own minds.

joanie

BTW, short-term thinking is what got us into this mess. The great American corporate mindset: short-term profits. Screw the future.

Alias B

I am confused by the argument that opening offshore drilling and ANWR will create energy independence. Isn’t oil that is consumed in the US, purchased on the open market from the oil companies? I’ve heard two assertions in the news: (1) Speculators are driving the cost of oil; (2) Demand, in particular from China an India, is driving the cost of oil.

If speculation is the problem, more supply isn’t necessarily going to help. People are investing in oil because it’s the latest cash cow for a market that is accustomed to short-term, high-profit investments. Greed is the problem, and we’ll simply have to wait for the bubble to burst and for the ubber-wealthy to find a new financial gimmick to exploit.

If, on the other hand, it really is a problem created by high demand, then where is the corresponding supply deficit? More importantly, if demand is not going to abate because of the increasing consumption in emerging economies, then any oil added to the market from ANWR or offshore drilling, will simply be sold on the world market at an ever-increasing rate. What America doesn’t buy, China will. How does this create energy independence?

I must be missing something, but I just don’t see it. Simply opening up US territories to drilling would not seem to have any effect on energy independence. In a world market, it makes no difference whether oil is purchased from Alaska or the Middle East, it all sells at the highest rate that buyers are willing to pay.

Which is not to say that I don’t think we should open new areas. I just don’t think it will have much affect. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

Puget Sound

More supply does help as does broadening the sources ie nuclear, wind, solar etc.
But another biggie is the supply and demand for oil futures. Until just a few years ago, the (FCTC one of many of our alphabet regulatory agencies that few people know of) aka Federal Commodities Trading Commission actually prohibited speculation in oil futures. The brokerage house -Morgan Stanley and Lehman for example- then went offshore to speculate anyway. As a result, the total of oil futures has risen from under $15 billion in 2003 to over $250 billion now. It is this speculation helping to drive the price of oil and it happens quick making the market highly volatile. One thing we can do is to reduce the leverage of these speculators ie raise the margin from 5 percent to 50 percent, as we do with stocks. There are some good articles on the net that explain it in better detail. Hope this helps.

nevets

Anyone see anything in the news about penguins going extinct?

nevets

And Joanie, watching Al Gores movie is not a good source for information on Global Warming.

So you figured out how to click on that link, good for you. Was I guessing or stating a fact?

Puget Sound

careful nevets, joanie will think that penguin remark is about her. its all about her you know.

Coiler

http://www.mees.com/postedarticles/oped/a47n33d01.htm

Dollar depreciation reduces activities in upstream through different channels including increased cost, higher inflation rates, lower purchasing power, and lower return on investment.

Dollar devaluation increases oil demand in countries with appreciated currencies because of an increase in purchasing power. It also increases the demand for gasoline in the US as Americans spend their summer vacations driving in the US.

Large dollar devaluation reduces the supply of oil and increases the demand for oil. Therefore, oil prices will stay high for a longer period than analysts expect.

Three more conclusions are relevant to future research. Studies that focus on the elasticity of demand for oil must use oil prices denominated in national currencies, not in US dollars. Studies that focus on the relationship between energy prices and economic growth must use oil prices denominated in national currencies, not in US dollars.

Finally, exchange rates may explain several issues in international energy markets that researchers have been not able to determine or agree on.

j@aol.com

Alias B: (1) Speculators are driving the cost of oil;

Sputsie: But another biggie is the supply and demand for oil futures.


Ate these two ideas different?


Steven, no, I haven't linked to your site yet.

As for wanting to know all about one incident, it isn't really relevant is it? Kind of like comparing a tree that dies because it is hit by lightning and millions of trees dying because the temperature gets too hot.


And, Alias B., good luck talking to these guys. You never get a straight answer or an informed answer.

Just like cowpot, you'll get frustrated and leave. Or disgusted - like me - and call 'em out even at the risk of being called every name in the book and accused of every deviant behavior possible.

Oh, and lefties rarely come to the support of other lefties because we're too damned independent (and we don't wanna get called names too.)

nevets

I see you just would rather rant that no one but you source anything. How about this one.

This lawsuit is currently pending and has temporarily halted any oil drilling expansion.

Going on since 2007.

Shall I post more?

nevets

I see you had a problem with Italics in the other thread.

nevets

Or this one, Did Narwal take these lawsuits into account when he said that many leases and permits were already approved. Maybe he needs to do some more homework.

because the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit has not yet ruled on a lawsuit over Shell’s Beaufort Sea exploration plans..

KS

"The oil companies already have over 6,000 leases to drill. They could be out there drilling right now.

They don't want to, or need to, to pad their wallets."

You neglect one major point - Snopes.com may possibly have this documented too. The rest of the story is that there is a congressionally imposed moratorium against new drilling - not sure if it is a blanket moratorium, but I do know that there is a moratorium with regard to new drilling. There are still hurdles that have to be cleared with approval by regulatory agencies required. Something that the MSM has not bothered to mention, nor have the left-wing talk shows - intellectual dishonesty rears its ugly head once again.

nevets

And here is a big chunk of that Government land that was open to drilling but has been halted.

In 2006, FRIENDS and other conservation organizations successfully halted further development of oil and gas leases on 116,000 acres of the North Arm.

KS

"T. Boone Pickens, a staunch neo-con even says we can't drill our way out of this."

T.Boone Pickens said that we could not depend solely on drilling to get out of energy dependency. Duh !

There are other alternative energy sources that have to be developed, like nuclear power, wind, solar and also use natural gas in transportation instead of wasting it in electrical generation. In 5-10 years, hopefully we will have developed cars that drastically reduce gasoline consumption by using electricity, fuel cells primarily and the total gas hogs being phased out. Additional drilling will lower prices, if nothing else by reducing speculator prices. Offshore drilling can go on-line in as short of a time period as one year. However, the regulatory community via Congress has to compromise and cooperate with the oil companies in order for this to occur. This will probably be like pulling teeth with the obstructionist Democrats, altho I believe that Sen. Dick "Turban" Durbin and Harry Reid said they were open to offshore drilling last week. John McCain has this right as well as him saying no to Government subsidizing ethanol production in the Midwest. The message needs to be repeatedly continuously until remedial action is taken.

I am sorely disappointed in Congress (both parties) for sitting on this for the last 30 years and they only act when it reaches crisis more. Many Democrat candidates believe that expanding Government is the answer - a lot of these people need to be scrutinized by looking at their past voting records and voted out in November on the energy issue alone.

RedmondDem

Narwal????

Nevets, you know a talking whale?

Puget Sound

Well, it will be interesting when it gets to be debate time between McCain and Obama.
In 2000, the Bushies had lowered expectations so that he didn't have to necessarily win. Instead he just had to not lose. The fact that Gore imploded with some strange antics onstage made it easy for Bush to pass the 'good enough' test. Not sure what happened to Kerry in 2004.
Right now the McCain camp has already been lowering expectations. I wonder how the Obama camp will counter it.

coiler for Obama

Obama doesn't need to be a showboat, hence the assumption of lowered expectations. As McCan't continues to show off his Dole-like swagger, it will be 1996 all over again.

nevets

Thanks for the pointing out that mistake RedmondDem. It should be Sen. Rahall and his report.

KS

Obama can't help but be a showboat. He is a lot about being trendy. McCain may seem somewhat like Dole - but he is more feisty and has more to show for his accomplishments. There is such a huge divide between he and Obama - who emulates policies of Dukakis, Kerry and Ted Kennedy.

When Dole ran, the congress was in Republican control, but now it is in Democrat control. The people have to decide whether or not they'd like a balance of power with reforms and a more effective energy policy or do they want the bus to take a sharp left turn and drive off the cliff ? In the end, we will get who we deserve.

joanie

Well, you came up with a couple of obstructed attempts to drill. I don't know the particulars but I would expect that some of them are environmentally sensitive and invite litigation. May be deserved and may not be. I don't know.

But, 68 million acres is a lot of land. I don't know what the truth is but I can't believe there are that many environmentalists out there to cover 68 million acres of land. But, I suppose it is possible. I haven't heard the oil companies complaining. You seem to be the only one pointing out litigation as a problem. And so far, the oil companies aren't whining about litigation. Seems like they just want to stockpile more leases.

Tonight on the radio I heard Bernie Sanders say that in the last eight years - under Bush's regime - the oil companies have profited $600 billion dollars.

I don't think they are too unhappy with the state of supply. Do you?

""What the president hasn't told you is that the oil companies are already sitting on 68 million acres of federal lands with the potential to nearly double U.S. oil production," he said. "That is why in the coming days congressional Democrats will vote on use-it-or-lose it legislation requiring the big oil companies to develop these resources or lose their leases to someone else who will."

Do you think they should be required to develop the ones they have first?

Of course, as an person who likes life be it animal or human, I'm in no hurry to ravage the land. I am a thinker, Steven, rather than a reactionary. I believe we can solve the energy problem without relying on the same old technology that got us into this problem.

You tend to live in the past. I look to the future. What more can I say?

nevets

"Do you think they should be required to develop the ones they have first?"

No. They prioritize just like me and you Joanie. And that $600 billion you reference would prove that. If a new area was available that showed more promise, they should be able to drill there first. Remember, it cost money to drill.

And you do not think, if you did, you would not beleive Randi when she says there is no supply problems. The supply problem is that there is only so much that is being pumped and sold. When a hurricane threatens the Gulf or when a oil platform is sabatoged in Niger or Iraq, that supply is dwindled even further. Now Why don't we see lines? Because Exxon, BP, Shell, etc... are doing a great job keeping the gas in the stations. Think about that.

joanie

Well, that's a specific, targeted and referenced answer. Thanks, Steven.

Too bad they didn't know how to do it in the seventies' - was it 79? -oil crisis. Remember those long, long lines?

nevets

73-74' was the crisis where Arab countries places an embargo on Western countries that supported Israel thus creating the long lines and the rationing. I wasn't driving back then. In 79, I don't recall the lines but I remember the price went skyrocketing up due to Carters blundering of not seeing the revolution in Iran and taking a stand for an ally.

joanie

Oh, that was all Carter's fault. I forgot.

My things are simple for you, aren't they? And yes, we should have sent our soldiers over to Iran to tell those people what they should do with their country just like we're telling Iraqis what they should do with their's.

I wish my taxes were as simple for me as starting wars and telling citizens of other countries what to do are for you.

Maybe I'd finally get them done.

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      Once a rabid right-wing talker, except for Lou Dobbs, it's all business....