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Fremont

OH,NO! We lost Tim Russert!! (Apologies for the off-topic interruption, but it's breaking news!!) Damn!!

rozskat

Suggested KVI Promo:” Kirby Wilbur, as reliable as bowel movements."

Now we know what that means!

joanie hussein

thanks for the comedy, Michael. I'm laughing heartily here.

Amazing what the crazies on the right will believe, isn't it?

If they ever had a mirror put up to their disgusting, insipid and hilarious-if-they-weren't-so-dangerous selves, this is it.

Hey, master shit-weasel name-caller chucks, you see yourself up there?


Good job, Michael.

KS

Side bar - It's unbelievable the level of insanity with the lock-step of the loons on the left, with all due respect Joanie, et. al.

Your ilk do not want to permit alternative energy exploration- no new drilling for oil, natural gas or nuclear power because if there is the remotest chance it would make Bush and Republicans look good - its better to be an obstructionist along with the lame and fraudulent excuses offered by Sierra Club and Greenpeace so we can blame it all on Bush and the Republicans.

Way to go - keep it up, and watch how that accelerates outsourcing of companies to other countries with continued skyrocketing fuel prices.
Keep looking over your shoulder because more and more people are seeing the light and vote those beholden to the Environmentalists out of office sooner than you think.

sparky

Do you really think the oil companies want to drill..increase production and therefore lose the profits they make when oil is "scarce"?

joanie hussein

...Your ilk do not want to permit alternative energy exploration- no new drilling for oil,...

"Gordon cites a report from the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Natural Resources that says the federal government has issued thousands of leases that oil and gas companies are not using to drill on public land. According to the report, it is estimated from today’s production rates that the 68 million acres of federal land that is leased but not drilled could nearly double total U.S. oil production and could increase gas production by more than 50 percent."

Gee, I wonder why the oil companies aren't drilling? What do you think, KLueless?

joanie hussein

BTW, of what "ilk" are you?

nevets

Hey Joanie, is that report like the Michelle Obama "Whitey" tape.

Or did you hear that on the Randi show. Curious, didn't you earlier blame the high price of gas on a bill that Clinton signed in 2000?

nevets

Never mind Joanie. I found it.

nevets

Again, I'm sorry Joanie. Here is the report "If we extrapolate from todays production rates on federal land and
waters, we can estimate that the 68 million acres of leased but currently
inactive federal land and waters could produce an additional 4.8 million
barrels of oil and 44.7 billion cubic feet of natural gas each day."
.

If 23 million acres are producing 5+ million brls a day, wouldn't the 68 million acres of inactive land produce 15 million brls.

How many of these acres are leased for its shale potential? Colorado alone had over 2 million acres of land leased by BLM.

Looking at the graphs, well drilling has increased just as substantially as the permits, but yet the total US production has fallen. Failed wells?

And last for now, how many of them permits and acres are being held up by lawsuits or environmental concerns?

If these Congressman are going to put out a report for Randi to read to her listeners, thay should atleast put out something that doesn't look like a 3rd grader did.

joanie hussein

...Or did you hear that on the Randi show. Curious, didn't you earlier blame the high price of gas on a bill that Clinton signed in 2000?

No. Although part of it can be blamed on the speculation. As usual, you try to make things simple. (And, as usual, you keep forgetting that I was not a Clinton supporter - he acted like a Republican so I don't know what your problem is with him. Are you blaming the DINO?)

How many of these acres are leased for its shale potential?

So? The question is why aren't they doing it? Another avoidance or just excuses?

Environmental concerns?

Personally, I hope a lot. But, you're the expert. What are they?


So, the Saudis claim it isn't them. Greenberger says it is the Enron Loophole and speculation. The House of Reps say it is oil companies sitting on permits.

But they don't know what they are talking about. Only you do.

So, come clean Mr. Expert. Tell us exactly what the problem is?

Or, maybe . . . there is no problem. And profits among the highest in US history are just fine with you even if it drives inflation through the roof.

And please don't come back with another Randi rant. You are more dependent on her for your posts than I am. Time to flip the "thinking" mode switch on and the "armchair attack" mode switch off.

Waiting...

joanie hussein

Umm, Steven, did you, umm, read this report that you cited?

I hate to be a stickler for details and accuracy, umm, but just a few tidbits from your citation:

Between 1999 and 2007, the number of drilling permits...increased by more than 361% (figure 1) contradicting the argument that more drilling means lower...prices.

...oil and gas companies have shown that they cannot keep pace with the rate of drilling permits... (the fed) is handing out.

...companies have stockpiled nearly 10,000 extra permits to drill...)

If we extrapolate...that would nearly double total U.S. oil production and increase natural gas production by 75%...cut U.S. oil imports by more than a third and be more than six times the estimated peak production ...(ANWR).

and so on...


Yes, the graphs are there. But you have to read the print matter that accompanies them.


Like I said, I've got an available seat in my first-grade classroom next year.

joanie hussein

It appears you owe Randi an apology.

Listen more carefully, my dear.

sparky

Greed is pretty easy to spot, isn't it, joanie? Why make your product more available, and therefore less valuable, when you can claim shortages and get the highest price possible? As much as people gripe about it, we still pay the $4.30 + for gas, and the freeways are still crowded.

joanie hussein

I guess it is true that people are attracted to others who look like them. Floyd and his wife are look alikes.

I wonder if that is what makes sex so good for him. Like having sex with himself - like being in love with himself.

Just sayin'...


joanie hussein

Sparky, you're thinking now. Can't have that, can we, Steven?

nevets

"Umm, Steven, did you, umm, read this report that you cited?"

Another 180, now I cite sources. Just the other day I never did, even when I cited you.

Now you highlighted this out of the report...

"Between 1999 and 2007, the number of drilling permits...increased by more than 361% (figure 1) contradicting the argument that more drilling means lower...prices."

Joanie, I already addressed that with...

"Looking at the graphs, well drilling has increased just as substantially as the permits, but yet the total US production has fallen."

Why is that Joanie? Why has production fallen even though the drilling has increased. I read somewhere that 50 % of the wells drilled are no good. Could that be it? How about opening up areas where there is some oil so it can make it to the market.

Then you highlighted this...

"...companies have stockpiled nearly 10,000 extra permits to drill...)"

Yes and I posted this about that...

"And last for now, how many of them permits and acres are being held up by lawsuits or environmental concerns?" Maybe those 10,000 permits?

What are the concerns Joanie? Could be water rights? land rights? The spotted owl? The Caribou? Why didn't the Author of the report look into why the permits were not being used?

And this highlight...

"If we extrapolate...that would nearly double total U.S. oil production and increase natural gas production by 75%...cut U.S. oil imports by more than a third and be more than six times the estimated peak production ...(ANWR)."

Now didn't I debunk the math already. Extrapolate it yourself Joanie and tell me what you get.


"So, come clean Mr. Expert. Tell us exactly what the problem is?"

I have already said this in previous posts. The Lib controlled Congress has not acted sufficently thus creating the crisis to win back the Presidency. Simple as that. For two years they could have recinded that Bill that Clinton signed before he left office. Instead they got greedy themselves and focused on the profits of the oil companies which are within what anyother company makes.


And do a little research on the shale situation. Whether it is feasable or not I don't know. Maybe a mom and pop oil company has secured the lease and is waiting for Exxon to put up some big cash for it. One of the solutions to get the oil out of the shale is to use nuclear bombs. Not something one wants in their backyard.

So the answer to your question is yes. Now take that seat you are holding for me and set yourself down there.

joanie hussein for homosexuals

...contradicting the argument that more drilling means lower...prices."

You have not addressed this conclusion. A discussion about dry sites is irrelevant to this conclusion.

Whose fault is it if the oil companies don't know how to pick out rich sites? Congress's? They've still gotten the permits.

how many of them permits and acres are being held up by lawsuits

Since you didn't answer my question asking you just that, I concluded you didn't know. So the answer could be none.


debunk the math?

No, you didn't. You did leave out the Anwar reference which was disingenuous.


You choose to be your own expert. Fine. I cannot dispute what you "believe" to be true. You and putsie share that trait.


There is no basis on which to debate someone who generalizes evidence. Nor someone who grasps at unproven straws of possibilities to make his case.

When you have proof of what you "believe," let's talk.

Oh, and your discussion of shale? What does that have to do with oil companies, Greenberger, speculation, and the Enron loophole?

What does that have to do with anything? You think "shale" will get us out of the energy crisis? I thought we were talking about what got us into it?

joanie

Two more I can't let go...

"Looking at the graphs, well drilling has increased just as substantially as the permits, but yet the total US production has fallen."

Why is that Joanie? Why has production fallen even though the drilling has increased.

You ask a question and then make guesses. Why isn't one of your guesses that possibly the oil companies are making so much money they don't want to find more oil?

"stockpiling" doesn't denote dry drilling nor lawsuits.

stockpiling: 1 : to place or store in or on a stockpile 2 : to accumulate a stockpile - country suspected of stockpiling weapons

Words have meanings, Steven. You and puts seem to want them to mean what supports your thinking.

Guesses are not proof.

That first-grade chair is still waiting...

Minnow

"That first-grade chair is still waiting..."

He can't even spell his own name right...first grade is a reach.

Mungo

Hey KS,

Even your hero Bill O'Really says we can't drill our way out of this. Better readjust your talking points!

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