Pushing on the Obama "wimp factor," Hillary Clinton phoned into a Charlotte NC talk show Monday and told the talk jock, "I'd love to talk to Rush... what do you think?"
We'd love to hear that one. Hillary's "interview" last week with Billo Reilly was a dream come true --especially for him; he hasn't stopped strutting and crowing about it ever since.
She stood up to him and didn't pander to him, unlike Obama's vanilla pudding showing on Fox News Sunday.
Meanwhile, Barack acts aloof and professorial; He's trying to run out the clock- a strategy that's working for him in these interminable primaries.
(We liberals love a sociology prof; someone who can answer a question in long, nuanced, and broad
anthropological terms. We aspired to be one at one time since soc-anthro profs seemed to be getting laid more than anybody. Barack, meantimes should practice so when someone asks him a dumb question about wearing a flag pin, he doesn't choke up and deliver a hesitant and nearly incomprehensible treatise when he should dispatch the questioner in a few sentences).
We've long said that Democrats should fearlessly tread onto conservative talk media, especially when races are tight. This boycotting of right-wing media is a fool's paradise which simply buttresses the conservative meme that liberals are afraid of a fight.
As always, this election will be won in the middle, wherein dwells the so-called Reagan Democrats, and the moderate Republicans of the McCain ilk; to ignore the media they haunt is folly akin to George Bush's refusal to sit down with Syria or Iran.
Conservative talk hosts are always blow hards who, when confronted face-to-face turn out (like Billo) to be paper tigers easily handled by a forthright fearless candidate.
We'll never forget when County Exec Ron Sims strolled unannounced into the KIRO studios to talk to Dori Monson, his most vociferous critic. Monson, (who in real life is a short little radio geek with a girl's name) was nonplused; and went, according to witnesses, into the bathroom for an inordinately long time. After being coaxed out with a cookie and a juice box, he was as nice as pie, even got his picture taken with Sims and and forgot all his bluster, and why he was angry.
Barak is aloof because he doesn't want to talk to Rush?
Meanwhile:
About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow bride of Christ because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.
Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow sisters at Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.
The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway.
"One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'" Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.
They weren't given provisional ballots because it would be impossible to get them to a motor vehicle branch and back in the 10-day time frame allotted by the law, Sister McGuire said. "You have to remember that some of these ladies don't walk well. They're in wheelchairs or on walkers or electric carts."
Yes, Im sure the sisters were trying to vote illegally.
Posted by: sparky | May 06, 2008 at 02:26 PM
Barak is aloof because he doesn't want to talk to Rush?
Meanwhile:
About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow bride of Christ because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.
Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow sisters at Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.
The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway.
"One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'" Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.
They weren't given provisional ballots because it would be impossible to get them to a motor vehicle branch and back in the 10-day time frame allotted by the law, Sister McGuire said. "You have to remember that some of these ladies don't walk well. They're in wheelchairs or on walkers or electric carts."
Yes, Im sure the sisters were trying to vote illegally.
Posted by: sparky | May 06, 2008 at 02:26 PM
..and I think "Reagan Democrat" is an oxymoron. so there.
Posted by: sparky | May 06, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Well you just don't want to get into the 'habit' of doing that..hehe
Posted by: Duffman | May 06, 2008 at 02:40 PM
She's no dummy...that's a +-20-Mil audience. She's a gutsy lady and will be a gutsy POTUS!
Posted by: Duffman | May 06, 2008 at 02:52 PM
She's no dummy...
200 Economists (and common sense) would disagree with you, Duffman.
Posted by: mercifurious | May 06, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Agree about Clinton. After O'Reilly she could hold her own against Rush no prob.
Disagree about Gregoire. I heard her on Dori's show after the Lewis County floods and he rode her like she was Eight Belles, then sent her to the dog food cannery and fed her remains to Star. She actually seemed like she was on the correct side of the argument too and Dori had gone off without all the facts but she just didn't come across as strong enough to stand up for herself and, at moments, sounded like she was about to cry.
Posted by: Gay Gary | May 06, 2008 at 03:16 PM
If Hillary had any class, she would denounce Rush' "operation chaos" but since it works in her favor, she is all for it, like she was the mileage she got out of the Wright statements.
Posted by: Ray Tal | May 06, 2008 at 03:22 PM
I'm a retired Longshoreman, and I haven't voted for a Republican since George Herbert Walker Bush who was running against another one of these lace curtain liberals like Obama.These are the liberals who are killing our party. How did our party ever get separated from its blue collar base? I know Mccain would give our jobs to the Mexicans, but I frankly don't trust him with the the defe4nse of our country. Democrats win when they nominate somebody who has a pair. Hillary has a pair, but I don't trust her. I'll probably be voting for the old guy in the fall.
Posted by: sid viscous | May 06, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Hillary might have Wright working in her favor, but Barack keeps doing it to himself. Here we go again, another effete intellectual like John Kerry who hasn't got the vocabulary to hit back. How do Democrats keep losing? Why do they keep throwing away their chances?
This country isn't ready to elect a black man who talks in two-bit words and hasn't punched a time clock.
Posted by: Hal | May 06, 2008 at 04:25 PM
"This country isn't ready to elect a black man who talks in two-bit words and hasn't punched a time clock."
Substitute black for white and you have George W for the last 8 years, so what's your point?
Posted by: rayT | May 06, 2008 at 04:40 PM
I am very excited about watching the the campaign running against Obama. I'd love it even more to run against the fat cunt Hillary Clinton. I'd like to see her smashed, the messier the better.
McCain will run away with this because his Republican liberal philosophy coincides with the feelings of the nation this year.
No woman will be suitable to run this country EVER. They are too detail oriented and emotional. Hillary is especially vile and sneaky. Voters, even many women, get this. Let the women clean up and wipe the babies butts. Hillary's getting what's coming to her tonight, and every night.
Here's an issue you haven't heard about yet, but believe me you will. Barack Obama won the endorsement of the Teamsters earlier this year after privately telling the union he supported ending the strict federal oversight imposed to root out corruption, according to officials from the union and the Obama campaign.
It's an unusual stance for a presidential candidate. Policy makers have largely treated monitoring of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters as a legal matter left to the Justice Department since an independent review board was set up in 1992 to eliminate mob influence in the union.
These are bad candidates, and the Democrats deserve to lose.
Posted by: Perry S. | May 06, 2008 at 04:41 PM
You ARE WRONG..smegma-breath!
Posted by: Duffman | May 06, 2008 at 04:49 PM
Hillary's winning Indiana...Sen Obama 'projected' winner in NC...and the beat goes on....
Posted by: Duffman | May 06, 2008 at 05:07 PM
It's black versus white and the blacks are winning in the Democrat party primaries. When this is over, will black people finally shut up about how "hard" they have got it? Probably not.
Posted by: Bingen boy | May 06, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Okay..it's not lookin real good for Hillary; I think we're going to have to get Michigan and Florida into play for sure now!
Posted by: Duffman | May 06, 2008 at 05:47 PM
Jean Enersen just said Hillary's lead was shrinking in Indiana.
Posted by: J.Hova | May 06, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Yeah, that's why they won't call it...Indianapolis and Gary are still early returns and that's where Sen Obama's strength is.
Posted by: Duffman | May 06, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Democrats lost the working man long ago. Its the party of the yuppies, the hippies, and the phony intellectuals. They haven't had a national message for a very long time. They were handed a political year that guaranteed them the White House and they're blowing it by nominating this inexperienced kid with less experience than Bush. Nobody knows him and every time they learn something about him, it's a problem. My wife thinks the next problem will come from his wife who doesn't have much common sense and spouts off if they don't keep an eye on her. As an old Democrat, this would bother me more if McCain wasn't so middle of the road. He's got common sense, he's "green," he's got a good-looking wife who keeps her mouth shut and people know him and trust him. I agree with Dori, women and blacks have to "season" a bit more before we hand the steering wheel over to them. I don't want people voting for a guy just because he's blacK. Can you imagine Rev. Wright at the White house Prayer Breakfast? Can you imagine President Hillary getting "even" with all the people she and Bill have been mad at over the years.
Posted by: Perry S. | May 06, 2008 at 06:00 PM
You're not an old democrat, you're just old
Posted by: J.Hova | May 06, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Why don't Democrats like you just die? You're done. We don't want your goddam vote, or your racist, sexist remarks.
Posted by: jimmy | May 06, 2008 at 06:37 PM
Jimmy
That is the democrat party. Always has been. You urbanites just do not get it. The dems have always promised the gold to blacks and only delivered the shaft.
Posted by: chucks | May 06, 2008 at 06:54 PM
And yet Chucks, many Blacks loyally return time and time to that same ol Mine.
Posted by: PugetSound | May 06, 2008 at 07:12 PM
Clinton is a disgusting human being. She'll never be elected to hif-gher office than senator of New York where theres nobody but Jews and Porter Ricans.
She should just get out of the way.
Posted by: vb | May 06, 2008 at 07:45 PM
watching Hillary's speech,,omg Bill looks three sheets to the wind...his face is tomato red.
Posted by: sparky | May 06, 2008 at 07:59 PM
Hillary would be wise to appear on the Limbaugh show. She needs to stop preaching to the choir with softball interviewers like Keith Olbermann. 10 million people watched Hillary face off against Bill O'Reilly and hold her own. Nobody watched and nobody cared when she appeared on the Olbermann show the week before.
Posted by: abob | May 06, 2008 at 08:35 PM
As of 9pm tonight, Hillary has cancelled all her morning appearances on the national TV talkers. Rush's attempt at Chaos did not pan out as he wished. No need for her to go on his program now.
Posted by: sparky | May 06, 2008 at 09:04 PM
I remember Rush's TV show. He cannot handle challenge or conflict of any sort. Not even with callers. Hasn't anyone noticed.
That's why he's into monologues. He's certain to never disagree with himself.
BTW, I think Obama should do what he does best and he's doing it. You are wrong, Michael. This isn't a centrist election. Wait and see. This will be a benchmark election in many, many ways. The Reagan era is over.
Perry S., both parties lost the working man long ago. But, labor - regular people - have had it. Enough of them are out of work, out of luck, out of money that they are coming back. There's a percentage of them that won't. I wouldn't if I had a choice. But unfortunately the Dems are all we've got - those of us that care about this country and what it stands for in the world. Those of us who are against neverending war; neverending declining wages; neverending increasing food and energy prices; and neverending desecration of planet earth.
Who else you gonna go to?
Posted by: joanie hussein | May 06, 2008 at 09:50 PM
BTW, Monson may be non-plused when confronted by challengers but he gets back on tract as soon as they leave and he can bad-mouth them. Gets him back in his groove.
And, I always disliked sociologists. I dislike sociology. And a lot of people in that area seem to just show up. Never seem to get much done. A big yawn when I was in school.
Of course, I might have some renewed interest in studying the limitations and motivations of the sheeple on the right . . . nah.
Posted by: joanie hussein | May 06, 2008 at 09:56 PM
This is the Democrats election to lose. Hillary is grasping at straws, but she has shown to be the fighter and will stay around into the convention.
The sheen has gone from Obama, but after tonight he should have enough of a cushion to win. The far left and George Soros's minions are starting to pile on McCain - is McCain going to strike back (which I think he will) or is he going to act like Bush and stay above the fray ? (which will never resonate).
The interview that he has with O'Reilly this week (similar to Sen. Clinton's last week) will be revealing. He had better heed the warning that Newt Gingrich put out about the possibility of an outcome like in 1992.
Posted by: KS | May 06, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Mrs Clinton, as I told your campaign folks you would do well to go on Rush's Show. You had O'Reilly all flustered and I'm sure you'd do the same for Rush...he's infatuated with you.
With his big audience you could focus on the need to get Michigan and Florida back into the fray of vote counting,which is something you need, now more than ever. I told your staff that your 'tanacity' is very appealing to many across this nation and the way you tackle things 'head on' is admirable. Sen Obama is trying to coast, he seems tired and desperately wants this to be over while you (much like the EverReady bunny)energeticly keep on going...and going. I also mentioned that this prolonged affair is not necessarily hurting the Democratic Party but conversly with all of the new voters being attracted may well help significantly in the fall. I hope you keep on fighting - this doesn't have to be over, despite the pundits predictions and math calculations. I know the super delegates are beholding to you and thus they just need reasonable justification to head your way.
I'm very proud of you!
Posted by: Duffman | May 07, 2008 at 06:08 AM
Duffman, you're repeating yourself again. Time to retire?
Posted by: joanie hussein | May 07, 2008 at 07:27 AM
Humor me, ms joanie -remember I'm confined here at 'the hospital' and I need this 'therapy'...as do you. [no smiley-faces allowed here]
Posted by: Duffman | May 07, 2008 at 07:31 AM
As an independent, the John McCain of 2000 is much easier to vote for than the one I see for 2008. He is steering away from his centrist stance, as he pandered to the conservatives with promises to appoint judges like Roberts and Alito if elected. His embrace of “agents of intolerance” along with ads on Fox News proclaiming to be in the forefront of the Reagan Revolution only corroborates his cartwheeling on issues. He is trying to overcome conservative doubts about him. McCain needs them including the religious right to win. Not only for him but also for GOP house and senate candidates, if assumptions are correct that Republicans are headed towards election catastrophe not seen since the days of Watergate.
McCain’s selection of a running mate will be a deciding factor not only for conservatives but also with independents that may harbor disdain for Clinton or view Obama with suspicion and go with the lesser of two evils. I agree with Joanie that this will not be a gray area election and yes, the Reagan era is over. The “Reagan Revolution” is a proven failure and long outlived its usefulness.
This year’s election will be the customary conservative versus liberal. Bush fatigue, ousting of Republicans in the 2006 mid term election, an unpopular war, 70’s style inflation rearing its ugly head, food and energy crises along with the meltdown of the financial sector to name a few as the pendulum is starting to swing the other way.
Posted by: rozskat | May 07, 2008 at 07:33 AM
DUH! Foregone conclusion that this is the Democrats to lose...where have YOU been.
Posted by: Duffman | May 07, 2008 at 07:44 AM
I was having a rather good day here at the 'hospital' until I ran across This new study.
I may now have to call for assistance!
Posted by: Duffman | May 07, 2008 at 08:35 AM
So,if McCain should pick Condi for VP, does the Republican party realize she is black? Or is she a "different kind" of black? All this commotion because Obama is black and therefore unsuitable to be President ( not my words, but those of a few on this blog) then I don't understand why Condi would be acceptable. That sounds so, hmmm, hypocritical??
Posted by: RedmondDem | May 07, 2008 at 09:05 AM
McCain is desperate, he doesn't want a repeat of Dole, yet he already has shown how cranky he is towards women when he sez "they need more education and training"
Posted by: J.Hova | May 07, 2008 at 09:37 AM
RedDem
Sometimes, you are just so full of crap. The few trolls that come through here and say stupid things do not represent our Republican party. We laugh at how these clowns come here to play their little dimocrat child Psych games on you. How you eat it up. Most adults just ignore them.
Through history, the dimocrat party has been the party of racists. Has not changed.
Posted by: chucks | May 07, 2008 at 09:45 AM
We can be assured that Chucks has the inside scoop on the republicans, the run the debt up and blame it on the the other party, republicans, the 'Willie Horton' Lee Atwaters and the like, this is your GOP Chucks, go sell some RV's to white dudes.
Posted by: Ray Tal | May 07, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Exit polls show signs that Limbaugh's minions turned out for Clinton Rawstory
Posted by: RayTal | May 07, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Uh, so chucks, I take that as a "yes" that Condi is an acceptable choice for you.
I have been here long enough to see a significant lack of hilarity at the most racist of comments.
Posted by: RedmondDem | May 07, 2008 at 11:41 AM
To answer directly. I do like Condi. She is a brilliant conservative. Why are you obsessed with skin color? That has perplexed me for years. People who push the race issue where race is not, or should not be an issue. Is it that you are exploiting race in order to prove that you are not racist?
I really do not care if BarryO is a black-Mexican-northern European-transgendered-gay-bi-sexual-straight-goat humping-vegan-carnivore. But I do care that he is a left wing libral dimocrat that wants to take from me to give to others in order to buy their votes.
It is a pretty simple model that works so well for you folks. If you just take from the top 20% of the earners and give it to the rest, while only charging those in the middle peanuts, you have bought at constituency. Spit!
Posted by: chucks | May 07, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Asking a simple question, chucks. I am not obsessed with race, I voted enthusiastically for Obama. I was referring to the comments on here, jokes you called them, that were thinly veiled remarks about his race. I was not the only one who thought that way. So then I read these headlines about Condi maybe being the VP choice and I thought about all those people I hear on the radio who insist they will never vote for a black man. And yet, Condi is pretty popular with those on the right. So I assume they dont worry much about her being black. I was wondering why that is.
That's ok chuck, it was a rhetorical, philosophical question. Didn't expect you to get it, although you were not the person I had in mind when I posted it.
Posted by: RedmondDem | May 07, 2008 at 02:39 PM
Very well said
sparks....er I mean RedDem.Posted by: Duffman | May 07, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Just curious Duffy. Why do you imply that RedDem is sparky? I really don't see it. Sparky has always been pretty direct in expressing opinions. Same with Fremont and to some extent, joanie (usually when joanie feigns a fake handle, it is to make a point rather than deceive).
Not meant to challenge you Duff, just want to know if you see something that I am missing.
Posted by: chucks | May 07, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Hey Duff
You are opening up a can of worms. Last year Sparky was the one accusing others of posing with multiple handles. Sparky has decided to let it go as Sparky found that you really can't do more than just make the accusation.
Chucks,
Joanie barely has enough wattage to maintain her sanity let alone pose as someone else. If Joanie didn't exist, we would have to make her up. Just be glad that she isn't arguing your side. It really has to be embarrassing for Liberals to have Joanie ranting on their behalf at times.
Actually, I think Redmond Dim is just that.
Sparky is much smarter than Joanie or Redmond Dim.
Posted by: PugetSound | May 07, 2008 at 05:59 PM
chucks, Duffman accuses either joanie or me of this every once in awhile. It goes along with the "skedaddle" meme. Whatever.
School needs to be out now. The kids are awful. What say you, Joanie? Now that the WASL is over, the 6th graders just tolerate being in elementary school. Some parents are pulling some of them to help with spring planting because it is late this year and I don't really blame them. I would rather be outside too. Hay prices are at an all time high. Maybe I will quit teaching and become a hay farmer.
Posted by: sparky | May 07, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Obama’s First 10 Executive Orders?
Quotes from BarrackObama.com
• Obama enacts stronger “federal hate crimes legislation” to “reinvigorate enforcement at the Department of Justice's Criminal Section.”
• Obama creates “a fund to help people refinance their mortgages and provide comprehensive supports to innocent homeowners.”
• Obama, following through on his pledge to “meet with the leaders of all nations, friend and foe,” signs a non-agression pact with the Hitler of Iran.
• Obama doubles foreign aid to $50 billion to cut “poverty around the world in half by 2015.”
• Obama removes our troops from Iraq, leaving a power vacuum filled by Iran.
• Obama enacts socialized medicine, destroying small businesses with taxes to pay for illegal alien healthcare.
• Obama enacts amnesty for illegal aliens.
• Obama enacts legislation demanding carbon friendly cars, hammering the final nail in the coffin of the US car industry.
• Barack Obama enact laws to reinforce affirmative action by funneling money to “women and minority-owned businesses.”
• Obama repeals the Bush tax cuts.
• Obama enacts the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to entrench the power of the homosexual lobby.
I'll leave it to the reader to draw their own conclusions.
Posted by: KS | May 07, 2008 at 07:08 PM
" The few trolls that come through here and say stupid things do not represent our Republican party. We laugh at how these clowns come here to play their little dimocrat child Psych games on you. How you eat it up. Most adults just ignore them.
Through history, the dimocrat party has been the party of racists. Has not changed."
Whoa, Nevets - you're getting down and real here. Joanie will blow another gasket when she reads this. Sounds pretty close to spot on though. Brace yourself for the name calling and innuendo from the left...
Posted by: KS | May 07, 2008 at 08:41 PM