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March 11, 2008

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Rick

Nothing to see here-move along..

asdfas

so what has the democratically controlled congress been doing to fix any of the above mentioned?

Turn off the iraq money tap? nope.

Lower the speed limit back down to 55 to save gas? nope.

I guess they are too busy with steroids.

Bill's Dad

Just like a liberal to try to diminish this man's horrible values. Get him out of our sight. I'nm sick of hearing about him all day on every talk station.

PugetSound

Anyone want to comment on Geraldine Ferraro's comments about Obama essentially being an affirmative action candidate?

Howard Fineman observed that he was covering the Congress of Tip O'Neal back in the early 80's and that the main reason Geraldine was in the House Leadership was the fact that SHE was an affirmative action pick by Tip.

And isn't that comment of Ferraro worse than what Suzanne Rice said in calling Hillary a monster. Rice got canned.

Some more bad blood between the Dems. Meanwhile, McCain must be keeping a smile while he gets tanned, rested, and ready.

coiler

How do you tan and rest a cadaver?

sparky

This wasn't Geraldine's first foray into racist speech:

April 15, 1988, Washington Post:

And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his "radical" views, "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race."

Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, "Millions of Americans have a point of view different from" Ferraro's.

Hillary should ask her to stop speaking on her behalf. Afterall, she didn't like it when one of Barack's people called her a "monster."

fred owens at frog hospital

The news about Governor Spitzer brings up a very important question:

Would you rather have one $5,000 prostitute, OR five $1,000 prostitutes?

Think about it.

KS

Ferraro's comment was merely a surrogate attack for Hillary Clinton, who will do anything it takes to win, including blackmailing the superdelegates - if that is what it gets down to. She said that she prayed for Elliot Spitzer, but did not mention his family - real nice...

Contrary to Duffman, who I agree about a number of other things - Obama has more decency in his little finger than the Clintons have in their entire being - regardless of the outcome of the General election, I am pulling for Obama to hit back with his surrogates at the Clintons and win the Democrat nomination.

sparky

On this we agree 100%

joanie hussein for Obama

just like putsie to report the news and leave it to someone else to analyze it.


I think we've been here before with the Spitzer thing. For heavan's sake, men buy women - beautiful women - when they can afford it. So, what else is new?

We certainly are a hypocritical nation of witch hunters, aren't we?


Nobody seems concerned that the FBI was wiretapping a prostitution ring. Not how I want my money spent. Legalize it and let adults be adults. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam "pointedly" admonished, "We want you!" (or something like that...) and he'll get you no matter what. Especially if it involves peeking... now that's a gig I bet a lot of you would like.

nevets

Tit for tat. Lets see some more mudslinging so the world can see what a bunch of idiots the liberals of this country our. And you think the world thinks lowly of us now.

nevets

That should be "are". Sometimes...

joanie hussein for Obama

Speak clearly, Steven. "tit" for what tat?

Why idiots?

And, yes, the "world" thinks very poorly of us. So...?

nevets

Joanie, the Iraqi rose showing her true colors.

joanie hussein for Obama

Continue to speak in tongue, Steven. Or are you just flirting. :)

abob

"Hillary Clinton would not be in the presidential race if her husband wasn't banging cocktail waitresses two at a time" _Geraldine Ferraro

Tommy008

This morning,Limbaugh, old PPA, or Permanently Peurile Ass, launched his new yukyuk parody song for his drooling, dumbed down dittoheads, Ebony and Ovaries, about guess who and who, and then went into a tirade against Spitzer. He seemed to take this latest revelation about Spitzer as proof that his Wall Street prosecutions were bogus. He told a story about a rich, fat cat golfing buddy who came speeding up to him in his cart on the golf course asking for a good lawyer reccomendation, because he'd just learned that Spitzer was after him. Limbaugh talked like it was just a given that Spitzer was simply harrassing his buddy out of spite, when in reality the fatass talkhost has no way of knowing at all whether his friend was a big fat crook or not. I'd say most of the Wall Street boys he went after deserved it.

Stefan Sharkansky

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer website has a breaking news story from the Associated Press: "NY governor linked to prostitution ring"

The New York Times is reporting that Gov. Eliot Spitzer has told senior advisers that he had been involved in a prostitution ring.
Hmm. I wonder which party Gov. Spitzer belongs to. It isn't until the 8th paragraph that the article alludes to either of the major parties:
... a plot by his aides to smear Spitzer's main Republican nemesis...
Is that an interparty or intraparty nemesis? Not entirely clear. But because the article does not contain the word "Democrat", the only logical conclusion is that Spitzer is in fact a Democrat.

Fat Thom

I think we're missing the point. What exactly does $1000 an hour buy?

wutitiz

Stefan makes a good point. I don't trust the Seattle Times or PI any further than I could throw a sofa with Greg Nickels and Bernie Ward sitting on it.

Here's a case where I actually agree with www. We do not need the FBI going after hookers and johns. This should have been a matter between Spitzer and wife.

Writer James Bovard related how "As planes were smashing into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, ten FBI agents were working a prostitution investigation in New Orleans. After a year's work and more than five thousand tapped calls, the FBI proudly announced the indictment of a dozen hookers and madams....law professor Jonathon Turley quipped, 'Only the FBI could go to the French Quarter and find only a dozen prostitutes after a year of investigation.'" (p.57, 'Terrorism and Tyranny').

Still, it is delicious to watch the twisting & squirming of those who virtually tripped over their own feet in their haste to pillory Larry Craig.

wutitiz

Wonderfully progressive Seattle City atty Tom Carr recently sought passage of a new state law that would allow SPD to confiscate the vehicles of suspected johns and prostitutes.

'The city isn't looking to make money,' said an aide to Carr. Which means of course, the city is looking to make money. They want to make it without having to legalize and tax prostitution, which of course would meet with howls from their buddies at SPD Vice.

Horray for progressivism.

Duffman

KS sez:
"Contrary to Duffman, who I agree about a number of other things - Obama has more decency in his little finger than the Clintons have in their entire being - regardless of the outcome of the General election, I am pulling for Obama to hit back with his surrogates at the Clintons and win the Democrat nomination."

With all due respect to you KS I can understand how/why you feel this way and I feel it's because of the way Mrs Clinton has been 'painted' by the MSM (and especially the -right). She has learned well the ways of political survival and she has developed skills that are practiced every day by astute politicians but when 'she' exercises those skills they get focused on and magnified and distorted in a negative way. Mrs Clinton understands what it will take to get past the 'men only' sign on the White House door, this is history in the making and the one who 'goes first' into these annals of history always endures the wrath of critics to the nth degree. When she becomes POTUS I think we will see her true character, compassion and warmth come through, but presently she's in a fierce battle using tools that are customarily used by 'good 'ol boys' all the time and quite frankly 'they' don't like it so they try to quash her. She sticks to her plan persistantly knowing full well that she is blazing a new frontier trail in this Country and one that is full of obstacles. She in my mind, is a 'genuine pioneer' indeed! I guess it's obvious: I just like her. :)

Not that Sen Obama couldn't or isn't doing the same to a degree, but I just prefer Mrs Clinton at this point in time.

Duffman

If he, Gov Spitzer, broke the law, he deserves what he gets. Prostitution alone...give me a break...it's part and parcel of our political system. Morally?...not for me, but WHO knows what kind of a relationship he and his wife had; may be this was known and tolerated for the benefit of the family?...and or may be it was mutual? [My wife w/be hard-pressed to 'stand-by-my-side' at a time like that if it was a revelation to her?]. So, I shan't discount him for 'getting some strange stuff' (so to speak)...as to breaking the law -well, he has to face that to the best of his (or his attorney's) ability. :)

Sparky

so, mr. shark, what do you make of the fact that Fox News repeatedly showed Mark Foley's name with a (D) behind it? What super secret message was the media sending then??

sparky

Hey Joanie, did you hear Dr. Laura say that if Mrs. Spitzer had just been a better wife and did an adequate job of meeting her husband's "needs" then he would have NEVER gone to a prostitute.

joanie hussein for Obama

wzzz:tripped over their own feet in their haste to pillory Larry Craig.

You talking about the guy who said of Clinton he's a nasty, naughty boy? You talkin' about that Craig? Mr. Morality himself? The first Puritan of Idaho?

My my, wzzz, see why we hold you in such contempt?


Sparky, blame the victim? Typical. I wonder what her husband is doing for a little venom-free pleasure?

cowpotpi3

Nice to see the liberal bashing in full swing! Its almost like you can hear "conservatives" exclaiming "finally we got one!"

See Spitzer is going to resign, he actually seems to be getting held accountable for his actions. Unlike say...some diaper loving Senator.

Reality check for our gleefully ignorant right wing nuts. Recall Mark Foley? Recall the cover up by Republicans? Larry Craig and the circling wagons? We even see Wzzz sitting here still defending Craig.

And in all of this all you guys can do is attack newspapers for not proclaiming "Democratic Liberal and probable communist" in the first two sentences. I bet the right holds all media to the same standard...wait no.

Tommy008

last Night Bill O'Reilly has never been more of a pompous ass, both on tv and radio. He's really got a bee up his butt about Spitzer being actually self-destructive underneath his facade and that's the ONLY reason he did this, to destroy his career. He had a couple of mental health professionals , a shrink named Robbie Ludwig and another woman on his tv show. Ludwig who seems to be about the best of these types disagreed and felt spitzer was probably arrogant enough To think he could get away with it. "Magical thinking" caused by his sense of allpowerfullness was one thing she mentioned. OReilly immediately diputed her with a comtemptuos sneer and guffaw, saying how could he possibly think he could get away with it? She countered that apparently according to the news he'd been doing this a long time and getting away with it. It's true- news reports have claimed he's been doing this from 8 to 10 years. OReilly , trapped in the argument by a colleague with superior logic and knowledge, retreated with a dismissive "we don;t know that!". Ludwig tried to explain to the bricklike fathead OReilly that someone could be self-hating/destructive and arrogant/narcissistic at the same time but Bill WOUld HAVE NONE OF IT and continued to ride his hobby horse about Spitzer secretly wanting to destroy his career. Why does he have experts on his show when he thinks he knows more than they do anyway? what an ass.

Tommy008

Spitzer is speaking his resignation speech- no humility, emotion, no sorrow in his voice no humanness, rattatatat machine gun delivery. what a repulsive freak. An atomaton. A robot. he's sorry he got caught. that's all

AuthenticAndrew

His wife probably doesn't put out, they probably stay together for the the kids. I doubt he has cuase to be sympathetic, and why would anyone expect sympathy from a person upon their being caught? If he was realy sympathetic he wouldn't have done this for some eight years or however long it was. In his mind he was thinking, "yay, now I can spend a lot more time with prostitutes"!

Duffman

Very analytical approach to former Gov. Spitzer's psychological state of mind there AA. :)

chucks

Say what you will, it's all good. We really needed this. It will only last a week or so, but we all needed a break from the POTUS campaigns.
At the hint of somebody above, I just listened to the new Rush parody. It was funny. Nothing more, just a little cheesy political humor.
I did notice last night when watching KING 5 news at 10:00 that the news reader covered the story and never id'd Spitzer as a democrat, but followed up with a story on Craig and immediately id'd him as a republican. Oversight? Maybe, but I doubt it.
That was funny wutitiz, ten FBI agents and a year long investigation to find a dozen prostitutes in the French Quarter.
*******Free America********
*****legalize prostitution******
******legalize coke and pot******
******tax the crap out of all*****
****it's for the children******

AuthenticAndrew

On a side note I'm realy disappointed that the national media is so desperate to portray this as a horserace that they NEVER EVER mentioned from what I saw that Obama was expected to win Mississippi all along, in order to create the illusion of a competition. Mississippi doesn't even have very many delegates anyway, and it's not a winner take all state. He has done well in the south and with blacks, not so well in bigger states. The outcome isn't surprising or even all that important.

Then Drudge does the same thing but on the other side saying "He Wins Again" below a picture of Clinton looking frazzled, a happenstance pose between unrelated expressions, making it apear as if she's disapointed, when obviously this loss didn't come as a sursprise to anyone.

wutitiz

Joanie sez (re my comment about people who rushed to pillory Larry Craig):

"You talking about the guy who said of Clinton he's a nasty, naughty boy? You talkin' about that Craig? Mr. Morality himself? The first Puritan of Idaho?"


No, I really said nothing about Craig. My point was about those who rushed to pillory Craig, but have a completely different reaction to the Spitzer case. Note that I actually somewhat defended Spitzer when I said that this should have been a family matter, not a federal case. I am consistent: I didn't jump with glee over Craig or over Spitzer. Many libs are not. They have a field day over Craig,complete with homophobic outbursts. No field day over, Spitzer, though.

abob

Eliot Spitzer is the guy who prosecuted Martha Stewart. He threw her ass in jail. Ole Martha must have laughed her ass off when she got the news about the governor.

Larry Craig Bathroom Attendant

Craig brought attention to himself when one of the first statements he blurted out, "I am not gay" as if being guilty of potty sex was less important. We all knew what he was doing there.

Duffman

So, sparks - would you equate the Larry Craig situation with the Spitzer case?

cowpotpi3

Conservatives showing their hypocrisy yet again and selective reading beside the point. Nobody had to rush to judge Craig...it was all in a police report and his guilty plea for goodness sake. Are you that unable to read or just a hypocrite Wzzz? I don't see any liberals defending him, I see them sad that he did this to himself. Face it: you're trying to invent an issue to indict liberals on because you know in your heart of hearts your politicians are so corrupt its breathtaking.

Just look at the celebration going on by the conservative posters here. You can see the angry white men virtually high-fiving.

Now that we liberals have disowned the guy and the media is still having a field day with the story, you have nothing else. Pretending like somehow the media was harsher with Craig is laughable and just shows how dishonest you guys have become. They will be all over this for a week at least.

Of course, the difference is you guys try and excuse and cover up this kind of stuff for political reasons. Your hypocrisy is the stuff of psychological legend.

chucks

This whole thing is BS. The biggest disappointment from this whole affair is to find that a $5k per hour whore has no standards. If a man is going to shell out that kind of money to snort blow of the ass of some young hard body, he at least has to be able to trust that she has not been with some lib dim guvnor from New York. Where is the outrage?
That bimbo is going to be lucky to make $10.00 tricks at the Ellensburg Flying J truck stop after that outrageous behavior.

Mike Barer

Let me throw this into the mix. Spitzer was more of a Republican in that he was elected on Law and order and family values. This scandal reminds me of the Jim West Scandal in Spokane. West railed against Gay rights while secretly engaging the gay lifestyle.
Bush is still a crook though.

abob

Paris Hilton is worth $5,000/hour. She's hot.

chucks

Sure don't know about $5k per hour on that one abob. There is something to be said for skank appeal, but come on. Paris?
I wouldn't touch her if you threw in Jessica Alba. 'member, some of them diseases are fatal. Others a life time irritants.

wutitiz

"Nobody had to rush to judge Craig...it was all in a police report and his guilty plea for goodness sake. Are you that unable to read or just a hypocrite Wzzz? "--CPP3.

I apparently am able to read better than you, ccp3. Again, I made no comment on Craig, just on the moonbats who had a field day with their lame attempts at comedy, e.g. Larry's bathroom attendant (well, actually that was pretty funny). But the police report etc. is utterly irrelevant to anything I said.


"I don't see any liberals defending him, I see them sad that he did this to himself."--CPP3

Liberals may or may not be defending him, but they are certainly not reacting with the same glee, and they are spending more time calling conservatives hypocrites, etc. than denouncing Spitzer.


"Just look at the celebration going on by the conservative posters here. You can see the angry white men virtually high-fiving."--CPP3

Give me one example of that on this thread (and include how you know they're white (spycams, AWM-dar?)).

"Pretending like somehow the media was harsher with Craig is laughable...."--CPP3

I did not say that the "media" was harsher, just that they were downplaying the party affiliation, as Shark pointed out. What I said was that the moonbats were harsher.

Duffman

abob: but what w/you do for the other 59-min? :)

wutitiz

Abob--that's a good one--that is awesome. If I were Martha, I would dance a jig on my own show (as far as I know she still has one). Martha was railroaded--they couldn't convict her of insider training, so they trumped up a 'lying to investigators' charge and jailed her anyway.

Now that is a news snippet I would hi-five over.

Dave

I love how a Governor is forced to resign over a $5000 prostitute, but a President can send nearly 4000 Americans and an estimated 100,000 plus Iraqis to their early graves, while squandering $1,000,000,000 using weak or fabricated intelligence, and nothing is done. What's wrong with that picture?

Dave

As incredible as that number looks in my previous post, I left out 3 zeroes.

1,000,000,000,000 or more, possibly up to 3 trillion when it's all said and done (if you vote for McCain and we stay another 50 - 100 years).

wutitiz

And Abob, you're dead right about Paris, she's a doll. And she was railroaded too--even the sheriff said she got way more time than a Joe or Jane Blow would have in the same circumstances. I hate dirty prosecutors who grandstand.

Duffman

Ah the inequity of it all, huh Dave; summed up it could be: 'Bush-seeking' -v- Seeking bush'

Larry Craig Bathroom Attendant

Spitzer did the correct thing, he moved on and accepted responsibility unlike Diaper Vitter. We can now focus on the insane people who call themselves republicans.

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