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December 02, 2007

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Nevets

Cap, good to see you are catching up on current events since your stint in the klink. Maybe one day you can catch up with the rest of us here.

And are you also anti-abolishinist and anti-woman suffrage. I notice the "Founding Fathers" left thier rights out of the Constitution. Or is that a strawman question.

Nevets

Jethro, I saw you on the Bill O'Reily today. Way to go.

cowpotpi3

Due process of law is what we are talking about you insipid little ninny. Are you also too stupid to notice that when I'm talking about the Constitution Women's Suffrage and the abolition of slavery are some pretty key Amendments? Are you trying to be this stupid or is it a God given gift?

You've just been destroyed yet again with your own lack of understanding of basic American values and history. When are you going to educate yourself?

You also ought to get yourself a new idiom if you're out to attempt to diss someone, the way you keep bringing up jail seems pretty indicative of your own psychology. Got anything you want to tell us little one?

Bleeding heart conservative

Also, just to be clear, there are two kinds of Jewish people: religious and non-religious. The word "Jewish" is both religious, as in a follower of Judaism, or an ethnicity. Thus there are God-fearing or God-worshipping Jews and God-rejecting Jews (atheists).

Islam does not share this trait. If someone is an Anti-Semite, more than likely they are racist, not anti-Judaism. If someone is anti-Islam... well, it's not a RACE. It's an ideology. And it's obviously an antithetical ideology to freedom.
Take all of Savage's admittedly ill-composed statements and replace Muslim with Christian. Or Buddhist. Is he still a racist? Still "Hitler" in the words of Michael Hood? OR just an anti-religious nut like BJ OShea who fantasized on air about gunning down Baptists?

You guys just don't realize how hypocritical and inconsistent you all sound. Similar or worse attacks on Christianity are published and broadcast all the time, and it's tolerated. Speak against Islam, and it's "Racist." Inconsistent.

Weener

Yes, I would rather see America without muslims, islam and the quran. Ill take my chances that the country can do just fine without any of that crap within our 50 states and territories.

As their numbers increase so will the problems. And look to France and England and you will see what coming here next. You can spout off on the net but you wont be able to handle the real problems that are coming if this isnt stopped.

You can call me all the names in the world, dont care. Would love to see them all go back to the middle east where they came from.

cowpotpi3

Well Weener, you've just sailed right by the point. Is it acceptable to you that we have a religious test for citizens? I hope you can see how this is not only illegal but immoral as well. If you believe in these things I'll be pretty justified in calling you immoral and unethical with respect to the law. It's not a 'name' - the shoe fits.

Bleeding heart conservative

Weener, actually I disagree with you. I think our society can handle the presence of stupid points of view, such as CAIR's, Savage's, and Michael Hood's.

My only point on here is that it is logomachy, propagandistic balderdash, to call Savage's anti-Islam comments "racist." IF he's a racist, so is Richazrd Dawkins or Chris Hitchens when they attack Christianity and Judaism. For that matter, the ACLU is a racist organization for attacking Christianity as often as they do.
Obviously, that's bullshit. They attack ideas they don't believe in. If Savage had said all the above things about Chritianity he would be welcome to say them on Air AMerica or 99.9 on BJ OShea's show. But say them about islam, and it's "third reich" "Nuremburg."
Sanctimonious idiot Hood even blames the Seattle cabbie attack on Savage (after the HUSKIES game, Mr Journalist) which shows what a poor thinker he is: Luis Arturo Vazquez is an unlikely Savage listener.

Bleeding heart conservative

"I'm not gonna put my wife in a long skirt. And I'm not gonna put my daughter in Sunday School. And I'm not getting' up on Sunday to bray into the air. And you could drop dead if you don't like it. You can shove it up your pipe. I don't wanna hear anymore about Christianity. I don't wanna hear one more word about Christianity. Take your religion and shove it up your behind. I'm sick of you."

Is that racist?


"What kind of religion is this? What kind of world are you living in when you let them in here with that throwback document Bible in their hand, which is a book of hate. Don't tell me I need reeducation. They need deportation. I don't need reeducation. Deportation, not reeducation. You can take A-C-L-J and throw 'em out of my country. I'd raise the American flag and I'd get out my trumpet if you did it. Without due process. You can take your due process and shove it."

I've heard that Christianity should be banned on many blogs...

"What sane nation that worships the U.S. Constitution, which is the greatest document of freedom ever written, would bring in people who worship a book that tells them the exact opposite. Make no mistake about it, the Bible is not a document of freedom. The Bible is a document of slavery and chattel. It teaches you that you are a slave."

Stupid I know... but how is it racist?

Michael make the case that anything in the above is racist, and I will concede your stupid point that Savage = Hitler. Can you face the argument?

Bleeding heart conservative

One of the Blatherwatch fans wrote:
"Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Its almost the year 2008 and people still buy into this fucking shit?!?!

Only complete fucking idiots are Christians. Wake the fuck up you retards. Its not real, DUH!"

Is this kind of racist, xenophobic hate speech going to be allowed?

Nevets

Really Cap, I thought we were talking about an individuals idea on what this country, the United States should do to make itself a better and safer place to live. This idea of coarse will go no where, unless perhaps thousands of loons step on the bandwagon like they did when the Gays wanted equal status because of sexual oreintation. That too was looked at with disbelief but eventually got support from many loons and although not nationally, laws have been enacted in several states. I for one would not support such a law for such a mass deportation. Your "Founding Fathers" reference is why I brought up those examples. You know both Jefferson and Adams supported the ACS (American Colonization Society) in its attempt to send free slaves back to Africa because they didn't think blacks and whites could intermingle. These are two of the the "Founding Fathers" you are refering to right?

cowpotpi3

BHC - See this is the great, vast difference between you and I. I'm not looking to draw moral equivalence between people who hate Islam or Christianity. I think the quote you posted is distasteful. However, I think your comparison is a bit lacking: It was made by some individual and does not advocate disallowing Christians to live here. It also does not have a following (as evidenced by the circle the wagons attitude of literally every right winger on this board) like Savage.

Like it or not, most liberals are not as vociferously anti-Christian as you'd like to make it out.

I again ask you if you agree with Savage's statements about religious litmus tests and no due process. Why do you not just answer the question and keep bringing up strawmen? C'mon state your beliefs if you aren't ashamed of them.

cowpotpi3

Steve - You seem to misunderstand as usual. I'll (again) break it down slowly for you, hopefully you can understand.

CP3: The Founding Fathers designed the Constitution and Bill of Rights to prevent religious litmus tests and provide due process for anyone.

Steve: AH-HAH I GOT YOU FINALLY! They left some things out so that must mean you are against those things too!

CP3: Uh, no that is 100% irrelevant to the point. Re-read it carefully: The Constitution provides for no religious preference and due process. It also (gasp) provides a mechanism to amend it thus granting new rights (you know like women's suffrage and the abolition of slavery).


What we have here is a perfect example of where you fail at argumentation: You cannot refute my point because you KNOW it is right. So what do you do? Dig up a Strawman! Next.

abob

Has anybody in human history ever conceded a point during a message board argument?

Bleeding heart conservative

Actually I clearly stated in a post that in a pluralistic society there should be no religious exclusions... to each according to his conscience. I think Savage is a moron on many counts.

I also know that anti-religious bigotry is not racism. If it were, Michael Hood would be a racist. That's the point of my posts: Hood
s hypocrisy. He attacks Christians on this site all the time, yet when Savage does the same thing against Muslims he cries "racist," which is a double standard.

I hate Islam. There, I said it. I think it's a pernicious Ideology. There are many places in this state that just saying that out loud will get me branded a "racist." Totally unfair.

cowpotpi3

How is that unfair? You just said that you hate a whole group of people based upon your stereotypes of who/what they are? Do you actually know any Muslims? Nice to see you can make judgments on a billion or so people that easily. Surely you can see the obvious problem with saying you aren't a racist.

simon

such profound wisdom on this thread LMFAO

marky-mark

I find it funny and somehow disturbing that far left moonbats are defenders of the very people who would murder them first if given the opportunity. You hate Christians exponentially more than an any other religion including a religion of peace that would execute you you for some of the very acts you commit everyday. You might not like it, and you may not understand it, living in your cloistered Seattle world, but millions of Americans agree with Savage. Why do you think his audience is so large? Randy Rhodes goes into hysterical rants on a regular basis, and according to your logic many listeners would stick around just to see what she will say next. That hasnt really worked out all that well for her ratings has it? Savage is an arrogant megalomaniac, but what he says resonates with many Americans, because he is able to put into words the frustrations, and emotions we feel on a daily basis. He may not appeal to the erudite, and effete Seattle left, but for millons of benighted commoners like me, he is a voice crying truth in the wilderness

Bleeding heart conservative

cowpotpi3, So then, you're saying that hating the ideology of Islam is the same, equivalent to, hating every person who believes in Islam? So then you admitted unequivocally that anyone who says they hate Christianity is saying they hate all Christians, or Judaism all Jews, or Buddhism all Buddhists, and thus they are all "racists"?
You do realize how foolish you are?

"You just said that you hate a whole group of people based upon your stereotypes of who/what they are?" no, you idiot, I didn't say that. I said I hate the religion of Islam.... based upon knowledge of it. "Do you actually know any Muslims?" yes "Nice to see you can make judgments on a billion or so people that easily." But I didn't do that, idiot. Why are you so dense? "Surely you can see the obvious problem with saying you aren't a racist." Only for people incapable of logic. You're a fool, and not worth talking to.

sparky

Hey Marky....we dont hate Christians, we dislike hypocracy...you know, kinda like Jesus did!

You can share a locker with Steven over at Sylvan!!

Marian Bogni

Sparky, I loved your statement, "We don't hate Christians, we dislike hypocracy, kinda like Jesus did". It says it all.

cowpotpi3

BHC - That is not what I meant, so your deconstruction of my point is totally meaningless. To be clear, you were not very good at articulating that you separate Islam the ideology from all of its practitioners. If you had made it more clear it would have helped.

Now that I understand what I'm hearing from you, I will change my reply:

So you hate the ideology of Islam...which one? Are you aware that there are a great many different sects and teachings floating around out there? Do you hate them all?

I repeat my earlier question which you ignored: Do you even know a single Muslim?

You're calling me a fool, that is a rich one. Why because I challenge your opinion on how you view the world? That is pretty telling of your mentality right there: Get into a debate and come up against different view and refuse to continue.

kevinp

please, if savage could pull a hitler he would. the difference is, hes in a different time period, and all you idiot asshole conservatives would join the ranks of the SS.

that and you have no idea what a stereotype is.

GC

All I can say is Fuck the Muslims AND the Jews AND the Illegals.
America was built, designed, and has been maintained since inception by:

White and Black CHRISTIANS.

NOT come-lately Hebes or Ragheads.
I would instantly join the SS to run these scumbags out.

This is MY country, you bitches, because unlike YOU, I fought for MY America.

I am an AMERICAN first, not "african" or "Muslim" or just another "jew".

It is easy, you no likey, pack your shit and hit the road to your craphole, backwards, cesspool 3rd world countries like Pakistan and Israel.

In fact, O' Poor Mistreated "Sucking the Tit of American Glory" groups, you need to go home and fight for YOUR country instead of trying to take over MY country, you lazy, useless bastards.

The beautiful thing? I am still the majority, and if things go right, YOU will never be (freaks and losers never are, like dopeheads).

You think you got it bad now? Wait until white people finally get pissed off, and blacks too, at least WE have legitimate claims to the one, the only: US of Fucking-A.

Rich Corke

Granted, Savage's manner is abrasive; however, he is usually correct. America needs to return to its earlier ethics. Our earlier problems were trivial compared to what is happening to our country now. In general, our permissivism is causing us to fall apart.

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