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    The quirky talk radio trade mag. Check the Talk Radio Research Project- it's not very scientific, but places on the top 15 talkers list (scroll down to Talk Radio Audiences By Size)) are as hotly contested as Emmys (and mean just about as much).
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    The AM, FM, TV and digital broadcasters of Northwest Washington, USA and Southwest British Columbia, Canada. From Kelso, WA to the northern tip of Vancouver Island, BC - call letters, formats, slogans, networks, technical data, and transmitter maps. Plus "recent" news.
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DT

I think BM is inconsistent. I think if someone has an R in front of their name he would be outraged, but if someone has a D in front of their name, he gives them a pass.

Let's say, for example, Mediawatch reported, and made a big stink about Rush Limbaugh saying the same thing about abortion clinics. Let's say Rush said "I can see how someone can see an abortion clinic as a place of murder, but it's still arson, and fires can get out of hand, and I suppose by doing this little stunt some other property could have gotten damaged and some folks could have gotten hurt." Would some on the left being angry about what Rush said? Yes they would. Would you think the left was overreacting? No you wouldn't. Would you laugh-off what Rush said? No you wouldn't. You would be outraged by it. And you wouldn't be saying that those on the left who are complaining about what he said are overreacting.

joanie

Thanks, Michael. I heard a few minutes of this (and posted about it on the last thread) because she was on Dori's show yesterday. I didn't hear much except his railing about her column and her responses. (I tuned in late.) He did keep reading an excerpt in which he found so much to rant about and in which I found nothing particularly condemning at all.

She did her best to put this in perspective but, as usual with Dori, it didn't work. He accused her of parsing words when he went back to the same few lines over and over and over parsing them to death.

Of course, 710DORI's never wrong.

Tommy008

Dori wins the "pot called the kettle black" 2007 award for agreeing with a caller who chimed in after Parvaz left and called her "condescending and boorish".

Tommy008

Parvaz bested Monson, delivering a sound buttkicking to the twerp, and shrivelling his "manhood" as we listened, although he tried his snidest attitudes on her.In the end Monson was forced to retreat from his pitbull voice to his high school freshman nerd voice.bwahaahahahaahah

Andrew

The interesting thing about Monson's interview was how he interpreted her more sophisticated remarks for his enthusiastic listener base, saying they were cop-outs with an emphatic tone of voice and acting as if he's too good to offer a counter-point, of course to cover up the fact that he was being thouroughly dominated, and his preferred listener base was probably right there with him, freshly convinced liberals want to burn churches. I'm convinced Dori hopes to one day be Miss Ann Coulter. I hear mating calls.

damning testimony

Mis Parvaz's remarks were meant to be snide, ironic, and anti-Christian. The burka says it all about her and the PI. Homeland Security should keep an eye on both of them.

Lars

Thom Hartmann refuses to let callers bash guests who are no longer on the air, explaining that they are not there to defend themselves. Pity that Dori Monson doesn't have the same amount of class.

Andrew

That's kind of retarded. Does that mean we can't criticize Bush because he's unable to rebut? What about dead people? Supposing there was a guest I somewhat expect them to cover the bases before leaving the studio.

coiler

"heat seeking right-wing assholes" I love it.

lars

Thom lets them criticize what they SAY; the policy or belief. But he does not let them trash them as a person ("She was a real idiot") because it is the ideas, not the person that is the important thing. Since Bush would never appear on his show, your point is moot.

B.E.

Wow, so much hate oozing from the left. Maybe us righties should promote burning down liberal universities since they don't agree with our views. I agree that Homeland Security needs to keep an eye on this jihadist wannabe.

dudeabides

Yeah I though she was bad also. Her main point that it was a blog and not an editorial is offbase. If it's comming from her under the PI blog than is IS an editorial of the paper; as she is the editorial staff.

Dag

B.E. If you can look me in the eye and tell me what Dorothy said was promoting burning down anything, you're either an accomplished liar or a zealot.

Andrew

lars you're confused, ad hominem attacks are always bad regardless of wether someone is a guest or not. If Thom Hartmann allows ad hominem attacks on people who aren't guests then that's just as bad.

sue-b

"oozing hate?" why does the right label any criticism or even discussion they disagree with as "hatred?" The word doesn't mean anything any more. If you call this thread hate, what word do you have left for white supremacists or Fred Phelps?

Andrew

I ooze hatred for conservatives and people of faith and I'm not ashamed to admit it. It's a green color.

lars

Andrew, you are being obtuse. You are picking an argument where none is needed. I was agreeing with you.

Andrew

Here's the issue, you said "Thom Hartmann refuses to let callers bash guests who are no longer on the air", but the best I can tell whether a person is on the air or not never has anything to do with anything with regard to criticism of them or their statements. I don't listen to the guy but if he's infact making that distinction then something is wrong.

B.E.

here you go Dag, in case you haven't read her quote already:

"On the one hand, I can understand the power of the image to someone who sees the church as an oppressive institution. On the other hand...it's still arson. And given how fires can get out of hand, there's a chance that this little stunt could have damaged other property and hurt some folks."

So burning down a landmark church would just be a "little stunt"? She worries about the fire getting out of hand and maybe "damaging other property" but apparently torching the church itself is no big deal. Come on, you people really want to defend this stuff?

Tommy008

Monson is interviewing the woman about her pig now. I have to turn him off now, because he's going all girlyman with his voice now on her, as he does frequently. Sickening. actually he just sounds like a girl, not even a girlyman.

Andrew

The excerpt from the blog is obviously a failed attempt at humor. It's close enough to serious that the sarcasm is lost on many, and she's at fault for that. I'm disapointed that she did the talk show circuit to defend her remarks because she's largely in the wrong, and she's just become a tool of the right wing to demonize liberals as church burners.

jamie

I respect the dissemanence of your intellect and obvious reamublar approach, but could not the demblin of the image of the church be ambilantory. It's a distinct possibility expecially when a literast among the media-subblance is quoted. Interesting slant on human biorythm when exposed in the correct interocculary. Bottom line is that I agree to a degree but not in complete agrindisement.

chucks

Good God, how can anybody argue with joanie on that? What ever the hell she said. LOL
Left my damn reading glasses at work, so I can't even look up those fine words.

Kenneth

Perhaps you would see her ridiculous comments in a different Light if someone were to say: "On the one hand, I can understand the power of the image to someone who sees the MEDIA as an oppressive institution. On the other hand...it's still arson. And given how fires can get out of hand, there's a chance that this little stunt could have damaged other property and hurt some folks." or perhaps "On the one hand, I can understand the power of the image to someone who sees the BLATHERWATCH as an oppressive institution. On the other hand...it's still arson. And given how fires can get out of hand, there's a chance that this little stunt could have damaged other property and hurt some folks." But then maybe they see banks as an "Oppressive Institution", or maybe you are considered an "oppressive Institution" in your neighborhood... Problem is that stupidity hiding behind free seach, ignorance, daftness, or preposterousness is still irresponsible stupidity!

Andrew

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

Reamublar isn't even a word! Wha..? Wha..?

Andrew

Liberal spokes-people need to be much more careful than this.

Notice how the conservative specimen "Kenneth" effectively turns a poorly constructed joke into a weapon and impales the joke teller and anyone who rushes to her aid.

coiler

I never thought of BW as an institution. Will it have an iconic symbol ßШ® ?

Gusto

We need to crush the Republicans' nuts. We cannot fail.

jamie

Exactly Kenneth, you understood.

coiler

The republicans are nuts, go look at the amount of frogs that had to be pumped into the economy again today. idiot Bush is just printing more paper.

joanie

Sorry to disappoint, chuck s., but that was Jaime who so loquaciously posted. Albeit nonsensically.


BE: So burning down a landmark church would just be a "little stunt"? She worries about the fire getting out of hand and maybe "damaging other property" but apparently torching the church itself is no big deal. Come on, you people really want to defend this stuff?

Considering that she's being sarcastic, yes. She's directing her caustic remarks directly at him for his criminal and insipid intention. Isn't it obvious? Do you have to have everything spelled out for you?

And her comment about damaging more than the church points out another intellectual failure in his thinking: she's basically saying he's stupid.

You having a problem with that?

My goodness you people are thick.

joanie

When I got on tonight, I meant to rant about Mike Malloy's ranting. I turned him off. Sometimes he sounds more like a performance artist than a radio host. He was beyond the pale . . . loud, menacing, grrring and just unlistenable. Wish he'd stop doing that.

DT

Once again, something tells me if a right-winger was being sarcastic about someone trying to burn down an abortion clinic, liberals wouldn't find the humor in it.

Tommy008

After Dori's penis-withering, embarrassing defeat in the debate with D. Parvaz he made a comeback of sorts yesterday when he condemned Dog Chapman for his racist voicemail and correctly, in my opinion, predicted the end of his career. After playing the n and f words-laced tape, he fielded calls, which brought out many of our local disgusting middle-aged racist white men, with their irrational fear and loathing of interracial dating and marriage for their unfortunate offspring.

Tommy008

One of the more repulsive white men Dori talked to said that it was bad enough to imagine his daughter or son marrying a black but, if one of them dared to announce intentions to marry a middle-easterner he would have to "put them out of their misery". When Monson asked him what he meant by that, would he have to kill them, the big man with the big mouth retreated like the poltroon and coward he is, muttering some obfuscating, muddling, meaningless crap, which betrayed his fear over having umwittingly exposed his sociopathic, homicidal nature.

DT

If anything ever happens to Dori, or his wife, or his daughters, I think it's pretty obvious what nut on this piece of shit blog did it.

Tommy008

I agree with you completely DT, that's why i advised you that it's better for you, DT, to be merely thought a nut on this blogsite, than to press the post button on your computer and remove all doubt.

KS

To put it into perspective; you get maximum mileage on this blog if you are either a kool-aid drinker on the right or a kool-aid drinker on the left that is perceived to ridicule the other side, except kool aid drinkers on the left cannot be acknowledged as such without paying a price. It's a cruel and upside down world we live in - fellow wickums...

joanie

DT=DELIRIUM tremors (emphasis on the "delirium")

Tommy008

Frank once again talked about his afternoon with his daughter, and then played Dog's racist tape("if Lisa was dating a nigger, we'd all say fuck you and you know that, Tucker")He then expressed a real concern about his daughter Sarah May growing up to bring home a "bling-wearring gangster rap-loving black man". He seems to be slyly apologizing for and rationalizing Dog's disgusting racism.

Janet Morrow

"the big man with the big mouth retreated like the poltroon and coward he is, muttering some obfuscating, muddling, meaningless crap, which betrayed his fear over having umwittingly exposed his sociopathic, homicidal nature.

His own or Dori's?

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