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September 10, 2007

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joanie

I was watching this on CSpan at school. It was almost too much. I don't know. I'm sorry. Petraeus sounded llike a talking head repeating Bush chants. Both CSpan and CSpan 2 carried repeats of the same hearings. Petraeus, Crocker, Chertoff . . . Lieberman? My brain was about to explode.

To just how much horsepuckey can Congress listen?

Andrew

It sounded like he was trying to put icing on a turd, by saying things like "As a bottom line up front, the military objectives of the surge are, in large measure, being met. In recent months, in the face of tough enemies in the brutal summer heat of Iraq, coalition and Iraqi security forces have achieved progress in the security arena." and then going on to describe how the process of having numerous factions sort their shit out takes a looooooong ass time, and we can't leave because it would get a lot worse (and the U.S. would look realy bad).

For all the talk about how things are going at the present, there is absolutely no talk about how any of this benefits anybody in the long run, so if you read between the lines he's saying "this whole thing was a mistake and we'd be better off if we had never ousted Saddam Hussein."

Duffman

Yes, thanks KUOW that's helpful. Fortunately I was able to access a computer so I watched it live via same - but just as likely I w/have been in the car and would have listened accordingly.
In my view this great General was doing the best objective reporting possible and was echoed by some politicians (both sides) who'd recently visited Iraq. For any who support the moveon.org hit piece on this General, I feel sorry for you...but you will still be protected by our fine military regardless of your idiocy. Moveon.org continues to hurt the Democratic party with garbage like this and Democratic politicians have to waste their time distancing themselves from this trash...it's almost like moveon is trying their best to sabotage their own party? I don't get it!

joanie

Duffman, short of having blind faith in our so-called leaders, what evidence do you have that all is well?

Duffman

I never said 'all is well' Ms joanie; I simply believe that the General is an honest person doing the best he can under a failed & lame duck President. And this General is not a 'so-called' leader; take the time to read about his background.

Mungo

The partitioning of Iraq continues...funny, when Biden proposed that very thing two years or so ago he was roundly demonized by the Admin and the talking heads on the Right...I guess it had to be their idea (see Krauthammer).

sarge

Shut up Duffman. Petraeus is a tool. He will be remembered like Goering is remembered.

Duffman

You are one sick SOB!

coiler

The general is an "honest person"...no, he would of done the right thing and said it's gone to shit and then retired.

sarge

He is a tool, you are a fool. Nobody believes a word Bush says so he gets a fresh military man to do his dirty work to save his legacy. He ruined Colin Powell's reputation and credibility with such sneaky shit. History will not smile on these proceedings. You are a stealth Republican.

Duffman

Obviously your MO!

Duffman

You have really NEVER made any sense, so why start now!

sarge

Fuck you Duffman. I try not to say it, but this is really different for those who have been in combat for our country. Young people are dying everyday for Bush's ego. This general is enabling innocent deaths by not saying anything substantive about the future of Iraq after the already inevitable draw down in the spring and summer. He has said nothing that Bush hasn't wanted him to, it is stay the course. Neverending war. He is a tool. He HAS betrayed us, and if they don't do anything real to get us out of there, so will have the congress. They will pay.

Duffman

"Vulgarity is a weak man's imitation of strength"

sarge

shoot the mesenger, you cocksucker.

Duffman

I shan't discuss it with you further, as you are an obvious imbecile.

sarge

"shan't????" you can't.

Andrew

You can count on Duffman to halt the discussion to bring attention to the fact that you use bad words. He thinks that's muuuuuuch more important. Learn what the rest of us already know: talking with Duff or PS is ultimately pointless.

Duffman

finally...AND 'winless'!

Andrew

Duff, you lose as soon as you change the subject. It's an implicit forfeit. You lose often and you lose fast.

Duffman

Keep on telling yourself that boy Andrew and you'll eventually believe it. It's not easy being green. Now go on to another subject and be a good boy.

sarge

Duffman can't take a debate past the first level. He's a fool.

These are the most important congressional hearings since Vietnam. Nothing substantial will happen because once again, everyone is taking political cover in the face of appearing like they aren't supporting the troops.
Petraeus is spouting administration line and yesterday at least, no one engaged him on it. Today we're getting some more confrontational questioning from senators, but will that translate into policy? probably not.
Vietnam fucked us up for two generations, the angst, the guilt, the recriminations. It even shat all over the 2004 elections.
They were able to diminish a real war hero while a party boy rich kid who simply dropped out of sight for a year during the conflict was elected.
This war will provide the same kind of acrimony for a generation or two after we're out- and it doesn't look like we'll be out in a generation. It's already compromised good military men like Powell and Petreaus. I still cannot fathom how we got here. It's an abomination, and the process seems incapable of dealing with it.
Fuck you, Duffman.

Andrew

That's not just my opinion. I think it's safe to say that if you're debating someone and your best retort amounts to "you suck!" or "keep on dreamin!" then you lose by default.

Even your last reply didn't contain an actual counter-point to my post. I feel like I'm basicly kicking you while you're down right now. You're down for the count, rolling around in your own urine at this point, held to the ground by the feebleness of your own brain, strugling to get up by doing the very thing that caused you wind up on the floor in the first place.

LeeAnn

As I said to Steven, stupid should be painful, Duffman. Even the Republicans are realizing it's futile:

Senate Republicans sharply challenged President Bush's top military general and ambassador in Iraq on Tuesday in a sign that some within the GOP retain serious misgivings about the protracted war.

"Are we going to continue to invest blood and treasure at the same rate we're doing now? For what?" asked Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., who supports legislation setting a deadline to bring troops home.

"The deep-seated doubt expressed at the hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee reflected just how far Congress had come since the war began over four years ago. And Republican senators raised tough questions that rivaled those asked by Democratic presidential hopefuls on the panel."

coiler

Iraqinam.

Andrew

The masterminds of this horrible mistake were installed by frightened God fearing lemmings. Even if the system works, which it might or might not, the idea of democracy might be flawed because it's vulnerable to mob-mentality on a national scale. Democracy has put very important matters into the hands of many millions of stupid people.

Maybe an IQ test should be required for a person can vote, to ensure that people below the average intelegence aren't making decisions on behalf of the people above it. It just makes sense.

sparky

I think it's clear that the audience for Petraeus and Crocker are those Republican senators up for election next year, who probably heard enough to "stay the course."

I think not nearly enough was said about the devastating ethnic cleansing of Sunnis and Shiites in various parts of the country that likely led to much of the purported reduction in violence.

How could he sit there with a straight face and say that casualties were down when they did not count Sunni on Sunni, Shia on Shia, people who were killed because of car bombs and those who were shot in the forehead? Those categories were actually listed by the Pentagon the other day. So those deaths don't count??

Bush knows his credibility is shit, so Colin Powell had to sell the war to the UN, and now he has another military big-wig with a lot of medals appearing before Congress because that way he thinks he does not personally have to be responsible for the way things have turned out.
He is just responsible for " Kickin' Assssss!!!!!"

sarge

The Republicans all know the nature of this catastrophy and they have known it all along. They can't bring themselves to vote with Democrats to put a stop to the war. To do that would be to admit to history that this has all been a colossal mistake. They have too much face in the game to admit the've been so wrong for so long. They are in a bind because they have to defend it in the elections next year.That said. there is no excuse for Democrats like Brian Baird. He will rot in historical hell with Petraeus.

sparky

Baird is a DINO. He stood shoulder to shoulder with DeLay and agreed the the government should interfere with Terry Schaivo's medical treatment. He got a heavily guarded tour in the only remotely "safe" area of the Green Zone, and then proclaimed there were improvements. Well, ask the iraqi people what they think about these so-called improvements. Why didn't he talk to them?

Duffman

"..it was the drive-by commentary of comedian Rush Limbaugh and GOP Designated Liar Sean Hannity."

Aptly described to a tee, Bla'M.

Duffman

"-- President Bush will announce this week plans to cut U.S. troops in Iraq by about 30,000 -- to pre-'surge' levels -- by next summer, a senior administration official confirms to CNN."

Here you go 'experts' you SO know what you're talking about, don't you.

sarge

They've always had to do that because that's when they run out of troops, you fucking republican.

Duffman

Thanks for your warmth and understanding and for demonstrating continally who you are. Just curious: would you happen to believe that 9/11 was and 'inside job' perpetrated by Pres Bush and his minions.

sparky

Its like when a store jacks up the prices 200% and then has a 50% OFF sale...it sounds like a deal but in your heart you know you are getting screwed. Getting the levels "down" to pre-surge level only barely meets the definition of "reduction in troop levels."

coiler

Is Petraeus Today's Westmoreland?

quote HERE

chucks

Duffy
Sorry if you feel abandoned. I am just to damn busy with my job to help you fend off these yellow bellied panty waste liberal assholes with their silly comments.
I can not believe the vile crap that is on this board today.
They are so wrapped up in their perverse desire to slam Bush that they are grasping.
With a handle like "sarge", you would not think that he/she would not be such a pussie. Andrew is Andrew, hope his mamma looks good in a burkha.
You are witnessing the height of BDS by a bunch of limp dicked liberal idiots.
Today marks the anniversary of the attack on our nation. Thanks to the heroic efforts of the NY emergency services, only 3000 were killed. Could have been two or three times that, maybe more if those heroes hadn't given so much.
Thank God for our military and their leaders. They are holding the Islamist terrorists at bay. Thank God for our President.
Gotta do my job duffy, so hang in there. Do not take any crap from these fools.
Can't even give it a rest for one day to reflect. Bastards

sparky

A lie is a lie no matter what day it is. The people who lost loved ones in NYC 6 years ago would still like to know what being in Iraq has to do with anything. Who was it that suspended funding for fighting in Afghanistan and moved everyone to Iraq?..I think we are up to Reason #9 for being/staying there.

Sorry you think its unpatriotic to hold Bush accountable, chucks. This is not what my father fought for in WWII.

coiler

Heil Bushler!

Duffman

Thanks chucks.

sarge

Jesus.
In the Armed Services Committee hearing this afternoon, Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.) questioned whether keeping large numbers of U.S. troops in Iraq serves national security interests or limits U.S. options around the world. He asked Petraeus whether his recommended drawdown ultimately would make America safer.

"Sir, I don't know, actually," Petraeus replied.

suma

He can't tell us if this war is good for anything.

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