take your answer off the air...

  • HorsesAss.Org: the straight poop on WA politics & the press
    progressive brilliance from the guy who pointed out Tim Eyman's nascent horse's-assedness
  • Talker's Magazine
    The quirky talk radio trade mag. Check the Talk Radio Research Project- it's not very scientific, but places on the top 15 talkers list (scroll down to Talk Radio Audiences By Size)) are as hotly contested as Emmys (and mean just about as much).
  • The Advocate
    No, not THAT Advocate... it's the Northwest Progressive Institute's Official Blog.
  • Media Matters
    Documentation of right-wing media in video, audio and text.
  • Orcinus
    home of David Neiwert, freelance investigative journalist and author who writes extensively about far-right hate groups
  • Hominid Views
    "People, politics, science, and whatnot" Darryl is a statistician who fights imperialism with empiricism, gives good links and wry commentary.
  • Jesus' General
    An 11 on the Manly Scale of Absolute Gender, a 12 on the Heavenly Scale of the 10 Commandments and a 6 on the earthly scale of the Immaculately Groomed.
  • Howie in Seattle
    Howie Martin is the Abe Linkin' of progressive Seattle.
  • Streaming Radio Guide
    Hellishly long (5795!) list of radio streaming, steaming on the Internets.
  • The Naked Loon
    News satire -- The Onion in the Seattle petunia patch.
  • Irrational Public Radio
    "informs, challenges, soothes and/or berates, and does so with a pleasing vocal cadence and unmatched enunciation. When you listen to IPR, integrity washes over you like lava, with the pleasing familiarity of a medium-roast coffee and a sensible muffin."
  • The Maddow Blog
    Here's the hyper-interactive La Raych of MSNBC. daily show-vids, freakishly geeky research, and classy graphics.
  • Northwest Broadcasters
    The AM, FM, TV and digital broadcasters of Northwest Washington, USA and Southwest British Columbia, Canada. From Kelso, WA to the northern tip of Vancouver Island, BC - call letters, formats, slogans, networks, technical data, and transmitter maps. Plus "recent" news.
  • News Corpse
    The Internet's chronicle of media decay.
  • The Moderate Voice
    The voice of reason in the age of Obama, and the politics of the far-middle.
  • News Hounds
    Dogged dogging of Fox News by a team who seems to watch every minute of the cable channel so you don't have to.
  • HistoryLink
    Fun to read and free encyclopedia of Washington State history. Founded by the late Walt Crowley, it's an indispensable tool and entertainment source for history wonks and surfers alike.

right-wing blogs we like

  • The Reagan Wing
    Hearin lies the real heart of Washington State Republicans. Doug Parris runs this red-meat social conservative group site which bars no holds when it comes to saying who they are and who they're not; what they believe and what they don't; who their friends are and where the rest of the Republicans can go. Well-written, and flaming.
  • Orbusmax
    inexhaustible Drudgery of NW conservative news
  • The Radio Equalizer
    prolific former Seattle KVI, KIRO talk host speaks authoritatively about radio.
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August 15, 2007

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joanie

It is amazing we liberals have left a sense of humor after seven years of this unfolding tragedy called the Bush administration.

But it does say something about our stamina that we can laugh instead of hate given the amount of injustice, corruption, and negligence we've had to endure.

Wonder how the right is going to endure the next twenty years of liberalism? Maybe they'll all move to Canada where they can help reelect Stephen Harper . . . now wouldn't that be interesting?

Moving to Canada to flee liberalism . . . wouldn't that be ironic?

Andrew

So not only have we established that conservative talk radio fueled by hate and distrust, but now we find out that conservatives can't, in fact, laugh.

I always knew that conservatives would get old and die one day, leaving us in peace to distort the government to an unimaginable size, but now I feel that time may come much sooner. Without laughter, why, a person dies!

Duffman

That's why your posts are so good for this board Andrew. They cause laughter! :o)

Duffman

"Moving to Canada to flee liberalism . . . wouldn't that be ironic?"

Far more likely that Canadians will move here in greater numbers during the tenure of Mrs Clinton. I am a former Canadian and I've just had a visit from several of my Canadian relatives - they LOVE her and agree with me that she will make an excellent choice for POTUS. [They actually felt sorry for us having elected(?) Pres Bush - they think he's somewhat demented] :o) Sorry, Edwards, Obama lovers, but such is life! You'll survive to vote for Mrs C.

chucks

Michael
Alleged face lift?
If that woman were a man, her sideburns would be behind her ears.

wutitiz

There is lots of right wing humor. South Park is the obvious example. Check out the Rob Reiner/anti-tobacco nanny parody. Also, thank god there's no right-wing Rosie or Whoopie. That's incontrovertable evidence that god's on our side right there.

sparky

You think Rob Reiner is right wing?

Now that's funny.

coiler

Jon Stewart and Colbert....no one or network can top them. They are the Kings!

OnYawn

"Michael
Alleged face lift?
If that woman were a man, her sideburns would be behind her ears."

A great 'rack' tho, dont you think?

PugetSound

Bla'm
The message board will only work if posters are prevented from posting under the name of others.

Duffman

Ditto!!!!

sarge

Whatever you think of her politics or her feuds with O'Reilly, she is very funny as astand-up comedian. Republicans don't have any comedians because they are prudish and have a stick up their ass. South Park-conservative? that's a laugh. libertarian, maybe, polically incorrect, maybe, but I don't think conservatives even watch it with all the toilet and sex humor, and irreverent, blasphemous, anti-religious, anti-Christian diatribes.

wutitiz

Sparky: No, I don't think Reiner's conservative, but a parody of him just might be. (d'oh) Sarge: libertarians are conservatives, at least as the word 'conservative' is generally used today. I think Reagan once said that 'libertarianism is the heart and sould of conservatism.' Buckley is undeniably libertarian. Is he not also conservative? And that's the last I'll say about it--splitting hairs over definitions of 'conservative,' 'liberal,' 'progressive' etc. is a waste of time and boring for all.

sparky

thanks, wutitiz..i went back and re-read what you wrote and I see where I misunderstood what you said.
Actually, the creators of South Park said they take swipes at both sides.
I think I would have to agree with sarge about conservatives watching South Park, however. My favorite episode of all time is the one about Oprah's gun-totin' Minge, and there is no way a conservative would like that particular show.

chucks

sarge
You make too many assumptions about conservatives. Many of us are conservative in our politics (small gummint, low taxes, limited social programs etc) but we still like to have fun.
South Park is a favorite of mine, although I have not been able to watch it enough lately. I watch Letterman or Leno as often as this old fart can stay up that late etc.
So, that is like saying all liberals are idiots. We know that some of you have fully functional brains. Most may be idiots, but enough of you have the brains to guide those lost souls to where you want them to be.

PugetSound

chuck
spot on. some people have cartoonish views and lack the nuance to get beyond black and white.
funny is funny. i can appreciate john stewart and a dennis miller. one's political viewpoint shouldn't be a judge of what is funny. too often people view things threw their political lens. some of the funniest comments can be ones directed at yourself...if your able to handle it.
the simpsons are fairly even handed and usually go after PC as much as anything else. if you ever get the chance to catch harry shearer's radio show or some of his comedy appearances you'll have a good time.
the south park creators put out a movie awhile back that was very funny. and the show itself can be brilliant. it goes after everyone...one reason that 'chef' left the show was because while he was okay poking fun at the religion of others when it came back at him, mr. issac hayes refused and had to leave the show.

Duffman

PS was that really you at the 12:19 post?

PugetSound

yep, the ph(J)oanie PS won't run me off....

Duffman

"..too often people view things threw their political lens."

Sorry the above 'threw' me off...didn't seem like you to mis-use words. :o)

PugetSound

ooops, poor word usage on my part. :)

if your interested, try out harry shearer's column over at huffington post.

sparky

Duffman, Mr. Sound always misspells
"you're" so you can tell when it is his post.

Duffman

Thank you sparks; interesting that you and 'coiler' hardly ever misspell or misuse words. Are you both teachers....ha :o)

PugetSound

"
Duffman, Mr. Sound always misspells
"you're" so you can tell when it is his post.

Posted by: sparky | August 15, 2007 at 01:29 PM"

true, it is my 'mark' if you will. i type quick and rely on ol spellcheck way too much these days. given that, i generally pass on commenting on the grammer/spelling of others given the venue we are working in. it's really considered bad form. of course, on occasion i've noted similar issues with your spelling/grammer at times dear sparky. i've just not cared to point it out. btw, hope your mother is feeling better these days.

sparky

Duffman: coiler and I are two different people, although we do know each other away from this blog. We get great enjoyment from your posts that surmise we are the same person.

Puts: you posted earlier "too often people view things threw their political lens. some of the funniest comments can be ones directed at yourself...if your able to handle it."

Just thought I would try out your theory. Guess not, huh? And it is "grammar" not grammer. :) hah.
Sorry, just could not resist. Of course we all make typos on here, and I don't care about it actually. But I thought you would appreciate the benefit of knowing the difference between "your" and "you're." My bad. Don't worry. I won't correct you anymore.

My mom is doing great, thanks!

Duffman

I'll take you at your word sparks; I'm actually glad to hear that you and coiler aren't the same, as I did not want to associate YOU with the infamous 'He is/was one of us'... quote. My faith is restored, I can sleep tonite :o).

chucks

The mom news is good to hear sparky.
Gotta watch the spelling. Freemont will just flat spank you for that.

Duffman

Freemont (aka: Fremont) is still trying to figure out if the fat lady sang.

sparky

Duffman..never assume. I agree whole-heartedly with coiler and Gusto. :-)

chucks! I honestly don't care about anyone's spelling on here. Now, that comment about Hillary's butt was kinda uncalled for, but Im cutting you some slack, because I don't care for her.

Yah my mom didn't have a stroke afterall. It was Belle's Palsey and all the symptoms went away in about 3 weeks. That doesn't happen with a stroke. Thanks for your concern.

wutitiz

As fate would have it, I bought a copy of my favorite mag, 'Liberty' today and there's a big article re Southpark. Here is a quote from a SP creator, Parker: "We avoid extremes but we hate liberals more than conservatives."
I'll concede that the Pat Robertsons aren't watching SP, but to rephrase Chucks's point, we conservatives don't "all look alike."

Duffman

coiler, gusto...joanie....teachers...Hmmmm!
re: Mrs Clinton - I believe she will grow on you and thou shalt be converted by Feb '08 (as Obama and Edwards will either be gone or VP candidates by then).
[bet you an ice-cold Chard...:o)]

sparky

nope.

Duffman

..Okay, how 'bout a room-temp Merlot...

PugetSound

"Puts: you posted earlier "too often people view things threw their political lens. some of the funniest comments can be ones directed at yourself...if your able to handle it."

Just thought I would try out your theory. Guess not, huh? And it is "grammar" not grammer. :) hah.
Sorry, just could not resist. Of course we all make typos on here, and I don't care about it actually. But I thought you would appreciate the benefit of knowing the difference between "your" and "you're." My bad. Don't worry. I won't correct you anymore."

fair enough. although i was discussing content on politics and all but i can see how you could apply to spelling/grammar vs message board posting standards.
but for sure, ya got me. :)
goose/gander and all that good stuff. so correct away.

and i am very glad to hear about your mother.

chucks

sparky
I'm with you on the spelling, thank you very much. Spelling, grammar, punctuation etc are not all that important while posting on these boards.
I only bring up fremont, in jest.
fremont ribbed me on spelling 6 mos or a year ago.
What is important is our ability to opine, vent or maybe even learn a little. And to learn what is going on with talk radio without having to listen.
Of coarse the "Hillary's got back" comment was just for duff. I do not like that used car salesman in a skirt even a little bit, but if looks where that important, I would have been put down years ago.

spark

In all seriousness, "computer spelling" is having a pretty dramatic and negative effect on kids' writing. Kids are so used to texting and using shortcuts, that a lot of times they turn in papers with "u" for "you", etc. Also, it is pretty much universal to "forgive" typing and spelling and grammatical mistakes because we all type in a hurry. So a lot of kids don't see what the fuss is all about when asked to correct errors.

joanie

Hate to spoil all the sweet "let's just get along" rhetoric and return to politics. I do believe that someone - the uninformed someone - who tried to equate Randi with Rush might be interested in this little tidbit:

"Pundits Uniformly Ignore Rudy's Hideous Recovery-Worker Gaffe"

The gist of it is that four so-called journalists made mention of Giuliani's claim that he was at ground zero as much or more than the recovery workers: Carlson; Krugman; Lupica; Matthews.


But, when it came to criticizing Edward's $400 haircut, no less than twelve journalists made it a topic of discussion: Matthews, Cafferty, Carlson, Beck, O'Reilly, Cavuto, Hume, Gregory, O'Donnell, Dowd (a full-time Democrat), Cohen, and jackson.

I point this out because in the context of trivializing politics, hatemongering and negativity, there's no competition. The right wins it hands down.

And I still haven't seen any proof that Rush sources, interviews experts and calls out his own all of which Randi does.

Oh, and putsie, you can refer to me anytime you feel the need. Makes me feel good to know your need is so great . . . I am happy to be of service, sweetheart. I'm a social liberal and willing to do my part.:)


BTW, if my spelling is off, that's okay. This isn't meant to be a spelling bee . . . just sayin'

PugetSound

"In all seriousness, "computer spelling" is having a pretty dramatic and negative effect on kids' writing. Kids are so used to texting and using shortcuts, that a lot of times they turn in papers with "u" for "you", etc. Also, it is pretty much universal to "forgive" typing and spelling and grammatical mistakes because we all type in a hurry. So a lot of kids don't see what the fuss is all about when asked to correct errors.

Posted by: spark | August 15, 2007 at 04:54 PM"

I can see your point and I agree 100%. As soon as I started to rely on a calculator it didn't take long for my basic in-my-head-math skills to leave me in a hurry.

PugetSound

"In all seriousness, "computer spelling" is having a pretty dramatic and negative effect on kids' writing. Kids are so used to texting and using shortcuts, that a lot of times they turn in papers with "u" for "you", etc. Also, it is pretty much universal to "forgive" typing and spelling and grammatical mistakes because we all type in a hurry. So a lot of kids don't see what the fuss is all about when asked to correct errors.

Posted by: spark | August 15, 2007 at 04:54 PM"

I can see your point and I agree 100%. As soon as I started to rely on a calculator it didn't take long for my basic in-my-head-math skills to leave me in a hurry.

sparky

Joanie, I don't think I would call Maureen Dowd a full time Democrat.
DINO maybe, but she led the pack in attacking Al Gore. She gets her licks in when attacking Bush, but I would not be surprised to find out that she doesn't vote.

Duffman

Al Gore: how 'bout CIAR?
Capitalist In Absolute Reality
..don't really care 'bout Maureen Down, as she is somewhat of a 'non-event'.
[As long as we're throwing acronyms around...]

Still getting bogus imposter posts Bla'M...not really fair; and I realize life's not fair but you CAN do something about it IF YOU CHOOSE. :o)

joanie

I didn't know she attacked Gore. That might change the way I view her. I started reading her in 2004 I think. Seems like her writing has been strongly liberal since then.

Why do you say that about her not voting? I was interested to see that her brother had been a Democrat before moving over to support Bush . . . the way she wrote about her brother, I thought he was always a Republican.

Thanks for the information. I guess you never know . . .

Duffman

"I guess you never know . . . "

Let's all please remember this statement by joanie. One of the more astute statements by you, my dear. :o)

joanie

You know, duffo, between you and putsie, I don't know who is the more needy. You are both attention whores. Did you know that?

At the risk of changing the conversation to something substantive, I dare to link another site which graphs the occurrence of Edward's haircut in the blogosphere:"Evolution of a campaign stumble"

It compares "frontrunner controversies" between Obama, Clinton and Edwards.

joanie

Actually, duffo, no contest between you and my sweetheart, putsie. You win, hands down.

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