take your answer off the air...

  • HorsesAss.Org: the straight poop on WA politics & the press
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  • Talker's Magazine
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  • The Advocate
    No, not THAT Advocate... it's the Northwest Progressive Institute's Official Blog.
  • Media Matters
    Documentation of right-wing media in video, audio and text.
  • Orcinus
    home of David Neiwert, freelance investigative journalist and author who writes extensively about far-right hate groups
  • Hominid Views
    "People, politics, science, and whatnot" Darryl is a statistician who fights imperialism with empiricism, gives good links and wry commentary.
  • Jesus' General
    An 11 on the Manly Scale of Absolute Gender, a 12 on the Heavenly Scale of the 10 Commandments and a 6 on the earthly scale of the Immaculately Groomed.
  • Howie in Seattle
    Howie Martin is the Abe Linkin' of progressive Seattle.
  • Streaming Radio Guide
    Hellishly long (5795!) list of radio streaming, steaming on the Internets.
  • The Naked Loon
    News satire -- The Onion in the Seattle petunia patch.
  • Irrational Public Radio
    "informs, challenges, soothes and/or berates, and does so with a pleasing vocal cadence and unmatched enunciation. When you listen to IPR, integrity washes over you like lava, with the pleasing familiarity of a medium-roast coffee and a sensible muffin."
  • The Maddow Blog
    Here's the hyper-interactive La Raych of MSNBC. daily show-vids, freakishly geeky research, and classy graphics.
  • Northwest Broadcasters
    The AM, FM, TV and digital broadcasters of Northwest Washington, USA and Southwest British Columbia, Canada. From Kelso, WA to the northern tip of Vancouver Island, BC - call letters, formats, slogans, networks, technical data, and transmitter maps. Plus "recent" news.
  • News Corpse
    The Internet's chronicle of media decay.
  • The Moderate Voice
    The voice of reason in the age of Obama, and the politics of the far-middle.
  • News Hounds
    Dogged dogging of Fox News by a team who seems to watch every minute of the cable channel so you don't have to.
  • HistoryLink
    Fun to read and free encyclopedia of Washington State history. Founded by the late Walt Crowley, it's an indispensable tool and entertainment source for history wonks and surfers alike.

right-wing blogs we like

  • The Reagan Wing
    Hearin lies the real heart of Washington State Republicans. Doug Parris runs this red-meat social conservative group site which bars no holds when it comes to saying who they are and who they're not; what they believe and what they don't; who their friends are and where the rest of the Republicans can go. Well-written, and flaming.
  • Orbusmax
    inexhaustible Drudgery of NW conservative news
  • The Radio Equalizer
    prolific former Seattle KVI, KIRO talk host speaks authoritatively about radio.
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January 15, 2006



Well, so much for radio being the town square of the 21st century. I guess it is really the arcade. How disappointing.


If there is such a gap between how talk radio should be managed versus how it is being managed then how did the current PDs and GMs get jobs in the first place and why do they still have jobs?

If I'm understanding this right, somehow radio stations went from high standards to what we have now and maybe the reason is that the audience is more selective. Back in the old days cars didn't have built in tape decks and CD players and there were fewer stations so they must have had to please alot of different kinds of people all at once.

A rule such as "don't repeat new twice unless it's an update" seems like a please-everybody-at-once solution because if someone doesn't like news it minimizes the amount of it they have to hear, and you can bet they would get annoyed if they heard it twice. Nowadays if someone doesn't like news they don't listen to those stations anyway so the need to make that niche happy must be gone.

Performing to those higher standards must be difficult, and extra effort requires an extra reward. I wonder if the relative pay rate for radio personalities has gone up or down in the last 40 years. I wonder if the number of people getting into radio has gone or down.

David Williams

I have to agree that I find it really strange that Dave Ross never (or at least rarely) challenges the nutsy things that Dori Monson says. It's like they are on different islands or something. Furthermore, Dori is always saying these nasty things about liberals, yet he also claims to be friends with Ross and Tony Ventrella. If liberals are such horrible people like he always says, than there is a disconnect here.

That's what makes the Battles of the Talk Show hosts so successful. People want to hear the hosts engage each other, and they especially want somebody to challenge Dori and his crazy bromides.


It has been my impression that the station has a policy not to confront other hosts about topics and comments. Erin does occasionally respond to something Frank said or did but will refuse to listen to a caller who does the same thing.

Some of the best radio I've heard was Erin and smarmy Frank co hosting. She was on fire! (with all due respect to Carl Jeffers)


I don't think the hosts challenge eachother because they don't listen to eachother's shows and asking them to do that would probably be a painfull chore for them.

I would love for Dave Ross to come on at 3 and talk about how Dori was full of crap on his last topic or whatever, because we're all thinking it and it's relevant to us, but I can see that this is too much to ask for.

There's also that expectation that they are supposed to respect people with aposing viewpoints, but screw that! Why must wrongfulness get any respect?

Mike Barer

I think think much of it has to do with the fact that the hosts respect each other, in spite of their differences. Also the essence of talk radio is listener participation. If the hosts denegrade each other, then the callers are left out in the cold.


If wrongfulness got no respect, just imagine how harshly Air America's hosts would be treated. But, we live in a tolerant society.


Mike..you should have heard the exchange between Karel and Dr. Bill Wattenburg a month or so ago on KGO.
KGO has its own Battle of the Talk Show Hosts and Dr. Bill immediately got a chip on his shoulder ( he does " victim" with great panache'). I missed exactly what Karel said to him, but later on his show, Karel said he didn't appreciate the homophobic comments from Dr. Bill when he could have easily just argued and disagreed with his opinions instead. Dr. Bill, who comes on directly after Karel on the weekends, launched into an attack on Karel that lasted the entire first hour of his show. People were calling in and telling Dr. Bill to give it a rest and move on, but he angrily refused to let " that little gay punk" to " get the best of him." It was quite the rant. Since then, neither has mentioned the other, so I wonder if management told them to knock it off.


I remember when KJR still gave prizes for news tips. I never seemed to be in the right place to call one in, dammit.

Mike Barer

KGO brings back some great memories from when I could get the faint signal at night when I was a kid. Since I was living in Walla Walla at the time, it was a great to be able to listen to excellent radio like that.
KNX out of Los Angeles was another old station that turned up on the dial at sundown.

Chad Stanley

Excellent summary by Mr. O'Day. I'd like to echo the earlier comment about KIRO's battle o' the hosts; that WAS great theater and that was what radio used to be all about.

I'm beginning to think that "the Seattle way" is just promotional shuck for a lack of drama and imagination. This town would enjoy (and deserves) far more than ghettoized 'all lib' or 'all neo con' talk radio. Sadly, there's some spineless market research folks at the controls that don't love the medium as much as they love their paychecks. Rock awn Pat!

Dick Curtis

Happy 74th Birthday Pat!

Dick Curtis

Happy 74th Birthday Pat!


DICK CURTIS?...is this really you (of '60's et al fame)? If so - care to chime in on the current situation at KVI?

Puget Sound

Dick Curtis has a great voice and loved his work. Another Seattle legend.
Happy Birthday Pat O'Day!!

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