Here's what he said on NPR station WAMU's Diane Rehm Show recently about how to fight the defunding attempts by right-wingers in Congress, and salvage public radio's good name.
"The truth is the Disagreeables won't help you. Your job, the most important role for someone who supports public broadcasting is to take the Embracers and energize them to speak up and do something and move the Accepters to become Embracers. And in terms of the best possible language, it is possible to communicate across politics and across ideology.
"Number one, you provide listeners with content that they can't get any other place. Number two, you take emails, you take Twitter, you take phone calls. That means there's a greater degree of interactivity which is what listeners want. Number three, is that there's a geographic component. We believe that whether you live in the most rural area of Georgia or the most urban area of New York City you should have the right to quality programming. And number four, if not this, where? Ending with that question. If not us, who? If we lose NPR, where are you going to get this kind of content? Those four steps and that targeting delivers you greater support if that's what you are trying to do.