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October 11, 2008

Michael Savage sued... again

Michaelsavage Robert Greenwald's Brave New Films is suing Michael Savage after the evil San Francisco talk host bullied YouTube into removing over 200 of their videos and disabling their account.

"It's the ultimate irony that a raging bigot like Michael Savage, whose hate speech is protected by the Constitution, is trying to censor Brave New Films," said Greenwald, "Savage is using the law to bully his detractors. It's not working."


The video at issue was Michael Savage Hates Muslims.

Michael Savage hates Muslims

Using copyrighted material in limited amounts for the purposes of criticism is a textbook case of fair use.

Only last summer, Savage lost an earlier case against the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). In July, a U.S. District Court found that CAIR's use of a four-minute audio clip taken from a broadcast to criticize Savage's anti-Muslim statements was legally fair use. The case was dismissed.

Robert Greenwald, a film director and producer has recently formed a partnership with The Young Turks to provide live coverage of political events via streaming video.

THE SAVAGE HISTORY:
Michael Savage's long, strange trip (Salon.com, David Gilson)

JUST SOME OF SAVAGE'S HATE:

"90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies" Listen

Savage advocating "kill[ing] 100 million" Muslims Listen

Savage on immigrant students' hunger strike: "[L]et them fast until they starve to death. ... Go make a bomb where you came from" Listen

Citing more sex-change operations, increased lesbian fertility clinics, Savage said of 9-11: "That was God speaking" Listen

On MLK Day, Savage called civil rights a "racket" designed to steal "white males' birthright" Listen

To "save the United States," lawmakers should institute "outright ban on Muslim immigration" and on "the construction of mosques" Listen

U.S. Senate "more vicious and more histrionic than ever, specifically because women have been injected into" it Listen

"Jimmy Carter is like Hitler" Listen

"Burn the Mexican Flag!" Listen

Savage on the tsunami: "I wouldn't call it a tragedy. ... We shouldn't be spending a nickel on this" Listen        

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Greenwald is suing the wrong entity. Savage does not have the power to remove anybody's YouTube account. The decision to remove accounts is the prerogative of the website owner, Google.

Phil Newmark, a producer at Talk Radio Network, said on behalf of Savage, "Michael never sent a complaint to YouTube about anything. This did not come from him in any way, shape or form." Newmark said he had no information about where the complaint originated. He said depositions and subpoenaed YouTube complaint documents for the civil suit will confirm that fact.

Did uncensored access to YouTube become part of the Bill of Rights when I was busy playing paddy-cake with Joanie?

I have a hard time seeing how this suit is worth anything.

Obviously fair use precludes him from suing BNF but
Michael Savage can request YouTube take down anything. Michael Savage can request to fuck Hilary Clinton. Michael Savage can request a different table at Wendy's. The decision to honor those requests is YouTube's, Hilary Clinton's and Wendy's.

It sounds like BNFs beef is with YouTube ... and I'm not even sure on what grounds they could sue YouTube for YouTube deciding to stop allowing a third-party access to YouTube owned property (in this case, servers) ... obviously this is a publicity lawsuit. On that front I'm sure it will work marvelously, though.

For some reason, I think I'll let Greenwald and his lawyers try this case. I'll be interested in the outcome and hopefully Wiener/Google will not win by running Greenwald out of money fighting this "fair use" case.

BTW, doubtful that Google would care if the weener weren't whining.

BTW, is all law based on the Bill of Rights? What about the Federalist Papers, Constitution itself, case law? Others?

What's the point of any "fair use" law if it has to be in the Bill of Rights to be enforced? Just looking for some clarity, please.

It's not a fair use case.

So?

Google will not win by running Greenwald out of money fighting this "fair use" case.


It's not a fair use case.

So?


Mike Papantonio just called our current government an "idiocracy." I'm still laughing!

Not very funny.Not at all, Joanie. Frankly I expected a little more from you.
My -haven't we changed?

Gosh, I am sitting at home all relaxed when some Gov Gregoire volunteer calls my house. No one likes these solicitation calls (they turn off more then they convert) when some older woman (at least she sounded old) starts to ramble on about the benefits of Gov Gregoire and her administration.
I politely wait until she pauses for a breath and ask, 'What about the accomplishments in regard to Transportation. We have no plans for the 520 and the ViaDuct is still a disaster waiting to happen.'
In the background I can hear an older woman starting to scream in tourette syndrome fashion 'where is my Fruitcup, Sparky' while the uninvited caller tries to answer my question with 'It is the fault of Dino Rossi...' to which I reply, 'but he hasn't been in office for 4 years. In addition, you have had a Dem Legislature for the last 6 years if not longer.'
I then asked, 'What about the Key Arena and why she wouldn't work with fellow Dem Mayor Greg Nickels. Is that Dino Rossi's fault?'
Well according to this solicitor it was actually not only Dino Rossi but George Bush.
After a bit of this and then the comment on Karl Rove I got bored and hung up.
Does ANYONE really think this kind of crap works? You want to get out and ring doorbells, great. But bothering people with phone calls is something no one likes. It's a step above the bumper sticker. a small step.

If you're going to pretend to be someone you're not, at least spell the name correctly.

Still laughing...

Nobody talk to you anymore at SP, dan'l? Too bad.

Unless you live in Kelso, Castle Rock ,Longview or Vancouver, "Edmonds Dan", I wasn't the one calling you.
That volunteer should have had more information to talk from, but, at least she was out there working for her candidate. What have you done?

I called over 100 voters today and got a couple of the undecideds to vote Obama/Gregoire.

I realize it is much easier for you to sit and home and mock someone who has given personal time in an effort to make a difference.

That's why the R's are going to buy the farm this time. They have nothing to offer except bitching on the internets. Been over to SP lately? they're all crying in their beers muttering about socialists.

Google will not win by running Greenwald out of money fighting this "fair use" case.


It's not a fair use case.

Unless you live in Kelso, Castle Rock ,Longview or Vancouver, "Edmonds Dan", I wasn't the one calling you.
That volunteer should have had more information to talk from, but, at least she was out there working for her candidate. What have you done?

I called over 100 voters today and got a couple of the undecideds to vote Obama/Gregoire.

I realize it is much easier for you to sit and home and mock someone who has given personal time in an effort to make a difference.


What a useless waste of time.

Two weeks before the financial collapse of the United States, a collapse that has been masked just enough to lull the sheep into a sense of security for the next 3 weeks, I warned everyone on this blog what was about to happen. Poor Gay Gary gets no laudits for his prescience.

After that happened I told everyone about the mass rapes, riots and crime sprees that would sweep this country - coast to coast - in a few short weeks after the mask falls off.

And we still have some morons out there pretending as though things like a silly election matter at all. They're like the orchestra playing on the deck of the Titanic as it slides softly underwater.

Instead of phone banking for chrissakes, your time would be betters spent preparing how to minimize the number of times you'll be raped, stockpiling 1800 calories per day in rations and making preparations for a total and complete social collapse.

This country is populated by a happy cabal of morons.

As Dizzy Dean said, "It ain't bragging if you can back it up"

What happens if the 'mask' doesn't fall off?

Here is another case that should be followed closely. Could Hussein be hiding something. Why will he not produce the proof of his citizenship. All it would take is a "Birth Certificate". Certainly Hussein has one of those right. Or maybe not.
Obama & DNC Hide Again Behind Legal Issues as their attorney files a Motion for Protective Order to “not” Answer Admissions & Production of Documents while Betraying Public in not Producing Documents proving Obama is “qualified” to be a candidate for President.


Why do I always get the image of Vincent Price when I read Gay Gary's posts?


The Birth Certificate Myth? Again??

What happens if the 'mask' doesn't fall off?


Keep that precious head in the sand when you're pushing a wheelbarrow of dollars to the store to buy bread to take back to your tent in Nickelsville.

Get ready for the rapings ye gun control supporters ... it's best to to try to relax as it's happening -

WASHINGTON/ COLOMBEY-LES-DEUX-EGLISES, France (Reuters) - The IMF warned Saturday evening that the global financial system was on the brink of meltdown ...

REYJKAVIK (Daily Telegraph) -
On the streets of Reykjavik, citizens are concerned about their own increasingly dire situation. Iceland is, today, officially bankrupt.

Yesterday, one of the nation's few daily national newspapers announced it was shutting its doors, while the country's flag-carrying airline, Icelandair, said it was suspending operations. No wonder the governor of the country's central bank has been sent home to rest by his doctors.

And without a viable currency the banks can't be rescued, there is no cash to pay for essential imports, and no way of controlling inflation. The result is one with which Zimbabwe is now becoming ever more familiar – soaring prices, a big increase in unemployment and terrible hardship for most of the population.

This Democrat doesn't think its a myth.

we're not Iceland, ok?


we're not Iceland, ok?

Zimbabwe: "We're not Lesotho!"
-->
Iceland: "We're not Zimbabwe!"
-->
United States: "We're not Iceland!"

Have you ever been raped, Coiler? I haven't, but I also have 17 guns so I'm not particularly concerned about it.

Gary you sure are obsessed with rape. Why is that?

Gary you sure are obsessed with rape. Why is that?


I'm not obsessed, I'm simply trying to provide a public service. I suspect many of the people who will shortly be subjected to gang-rapes and other physical assaults in a few weeks after System Collapse occurs will undergo extreme mental anguish prior to starving to death. They'd be well cautioned to steel themselves in advance. If their personal ethos precludes them from purchasing a firearm, that's fine, but in that case they'd simply be well advised to stock up on various personal lubricants.

I'm really not trying to be graphic, and I apologize if this is, I simply think it's best to talk about it before it happens than spend time comisserating after the fact because one wasn't prepared.

I liked the old gary, I wonder if he is still with OB, he never mentions his husband anymore.

I'm sure gg is really duh'f. There's just something similar about their articulation of things. Duh'f always was trying to be someone else. Maybe he's finally succeeded.

Rozskat told us about his professor who saw this coming years and years ago. What took you so long, Gary?

When the vigilantes start roaming the streets, I wonder how they're going to handle you guys? Might be time to make that move to Russia. Or, if you like rape so much, perhaps Iceland will be ahead of the curve and you could go there.

I don't think most of us would miss you too much.

'Duh'f always was trying to be someone else. Maybe he's finally succeeded.'

No, joanie good try but I believe we know the one's pretending to be someone else and those who are also posting as me. For the most part I'm trying to stay away and let you all discuss amongst yourselves. Can't you ignore me also? As I've stated I'm ready to move on under a new Obama administration...let's all pray for success. Peace out.

[gg: I 'somewhat' agree with you, in that you can trust that I am well stocked with ammo (of all sorts) ]

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