Robert Greenwald's Brave New Films is suing Michael Savage after the evil San Francisco talk host bullied YouTube into removing over 200 of their videos and disabling their account.
"It's the ultimate irony that a raging bigot like Michael Savage, whose hate speech is protected by the Constitution, is trying to censor Brave New Films," said Greenwald, "Savage is using the law to bully his detractors. It's not working."
The video at issue was Michael Savage Hates Muslims.
Using copyrighted material in limited amounts for the purposes of criticism is a textbook case of fair use.
Only last summer, Savage lost an earlier case against the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). In July, a U.S. District Court found that CAIR's use of a four-minute audio clip taken from a broadcast to criticize Savage's anti-Muslim statements was legally fair use. The case was dismissed.
Robert Greenwald, a film director and producer has recently formed a partnership with The Young Turks to provide live coverage of political events via streaming video.
"90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies" — Listen
Savage advocating "kill[ing] 100 million" Muslims — Listen
Savage on immigrant students' hunger strike: "[L]et them fast until they starve to death. ... Go make a bomb where you came from" — Listen
Citing more sex-change operations, increased lesbian fertility clinics, Savage said of 9-11: "That was God speaking" — Listen
On MLK Day, Savage called civil rights a "racket" designed to steal "white males' birthright" — Listen
To "save the United States," lawmakers should institute "outright ban on Muslim immigration" and on "the construction of mosques" — Listen
U.S. Senate "more vicious and more histrionic than ever, specifically because women have been injected into" it — Listen
"Jimmy Carter is like Hitler" — Listen
"Burn the Mexican Flag!" — Listen
Savage on the tsunami: "I wouldn't call it a tragedy. ... We shouldn't be spending a nickel on this" — Listen
Greenwald is suing the wrong entity. Savage does not have the power to remove anybody's YouTube account. The decision to remove accounts is the prerogative of the website owner, Google.
Phil Newmark, a producer at Talk Radio Network, said on behalf of Savage, "Michael never sent a complaint to YouTube about anything. This did not come from him in any way, shape or form." Newmark said he had no information about where the complaint originated. He said depositions and subpoenaed YouTube complaint documents for the civil suit will confirm that fact.
Posted by: orcas | October 11, 2008 at 02:16 AM
Did uncensored access to YouTube become part of the Bill of Rights when I was busy playing paddy-cake with Joanie?
I have a hard time seeing how this suit is worth anything.
Obviously fair use precludes him from suing BNF but
Michael Savage can request YouTube take down anything. Michael Savage can request to fuck Hilary Clinton. Michael Savage can request a different table at Wendy's. The decision to honor those requests is YouTube's, Hilary Clinton's and Wendy's.
It sounds like BNFs beef is with YouTube ... and I'm not even sure on what grounds they could sue YouTube for YouTube deciding to stop allowing a third-party access to YouTube owned property (in this case, servers) ... obviously this is a publicity lawsuit. On that front I'm sure it will work marvelously, though.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 02:20 AM
For some reason, I think I'll let Greenwald and his lawyers try this case. I'll be interested in the outcome and hopefully Wiener/Google will not win by running Greenwald out of money fighting this "fair use" case.
BTW, doubtful that Google would care if the weener weren't whining.
BTW, is all law based on the Bill of Rights? What about the Federalist Papers, Constitution itself, case law? Others?
What's the point of any "fair use" law if it has to be in the Bill of Rights to be enforced? Just looking for some clarity, please.
Posted by: joanie | October 11, 2008 at 07:31 AM
It's not a fair use case.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 08:46 AM
So?
Posted by: joanie | October 11, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Google will not win by running Greenwald out of money fighting this "fair use" case.
It's not a fair use case.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM
So?
Mike Papantonio just called our current government an "idiocracy." I'm still laughing!
Posted by: joanie | October 11, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Not very funny.Not at all, Joanie. Frankly I expected a little more from you.
My -haven't we changed?
Posted by: Rozcat | October 11, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Gosh, I am sitting at home all relaxed when some Gov Gregoire volunteer calls my house. No one likes these solicitation calls (they turn off more then they convert) when some older woman (at least she sounded old) starts to ramble on about the benefits of Gov Gregoire and her administration.
I politely wait until she pauses for a breath and ask, 'What about the accomplishments in regard to Transportation. We have no plans for the 520 and the ViaDuct is still a disaster waiting to happen.'
In the background I can hear an older woman starting to scream in tourette syndrome fashion 'where is my Fruitcup, Sparky' while the uninvited caller tries to answer my question with 'It is the fault of Dino Rossi...' to which I reply, 'but he hasn't been in office for 4 years. In addition, you have had a Dem Legislature for the last 6 years if not longer.'
I then asked, 'What about the Key Arena and why she wouldn't work with fellow Dem Mayor Greg Nickels. Is that Dino Rossi's fault?'
Well according to this solicitor it was actually not only Dino Rossi but George Bush.
After a bit of this and then the comment on Karl Rove I got bored and hung up.
Does ANYONE really think this kind of crap works? You want to get out and ring doorbells, great. But bothering people with phone calls is something no one likes. It's a step above the bumper sticker. a small step.
Posted by: Edmonds Dan | October 11, 2008 at 01:55 PM
If you're going to pretend to be someone you're not, at least spell the name correctly.
Still laughing...
Posted by: joanie | October 11, 2008 at 02:03 PM
Nobody talk to you anymore at SP, dan'l? Too bad.
Posted by: joanie | October 11, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Unless you live in Kelso, Castle Rock ,Longview or Vancouver, "Edmonds Dan", I wasn't the one calling you.
That volunteer should have had more information to talk from, but, at least she was out there working for her candidate. What have you done?
I called over 100 voters today and got a couple of the undecideds to vote Obama/Gregoire.
I realize it is much easier for you to sit and home and mock someone who has given personal time in an effort to make a difference.
Posted by: sparky | October 11, 2008 at 02:57 PM
That's why the R's are going to buy the farm this time. They have nothing to offer except bitching on the internets. Been over to SP lately? they're all crying in their beers muttering about socialists.
Posted by: beryl b | October 11, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Google will not win by running Greenwald out of money fighting this "fair use" case.
It's not a fair use case.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Unless you live in Kelso, Castle Rock ,Longview or Vancouver, "Edmonds Dan", I wasn't the one calling you.
That volunteer should have had more information to talk from, but, at least she was out there working for her candidate. What have you done?
I called over 100 voters today and got a couple of the undecideds to vote Obama/Gregoire.
I realize it is much easier for you to sit and home and mock someone who has given personal time in an effort to make a difference.
What a useless waste of time.
Two weeks before the financial collapse of the United States, a collapse that has been masked just enough to lull the sheep into a sense of security for the next 3 weeks, I warned everyone on this blog what was about to happen. Poor Gay Gary gets no laudits for his prescience.
After that happened I told everyone about the mass rapes, riots and crime sprees that would sweep this country - coast to coast - in a few short weeks after the mask falls off.
And we still have some morons out there pretending as though things like a silly election matter at all. They're like the orchestra playing on the deck of the Titanic as it slides softly underwater.
Instead of phone banking for chrissakes, your time would be betters spent preparing how to minimize the number of times you'll be raped, stockpiling 1800 calories per day in rations and making preparations for a total and complete social collapse.
This country is populated by a happy cabal of morons.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 04:32 PM
As Dizzy Dean said, "It ain't bragging if you can back it up"
What happens if the 'mask' doesn't fall off?
Posted by: Coiler | October 11, 2008 at 05:44 PM
Here is another case that should be followed closely. Could Hussein be hiding something. Why will he not produce the proof of his citizenship. All it would take is a "Birth Certificate". Certainly Hussein has one of those right. Or maybe not.
Obama & DNC Hide Again Behind Legal Issues as their attorney files a Motion for Protective Order to “not” Answer Admissions & Production of Documents while Betraying Public in not Producing Documents proving Obama is “qualified” to be a candidate for President.
Posted by: nevets | October 11, 2008 at 06:21 PM
Why do I always get the image of Vincent Price when I read Gay Gary's posts?
Posted by: sparky | October 11, 2008 at 06:22 PM
The Birth Certificate Myth? Again??
Posted by: sparky | October 11, 2008 at 06:28 PM
What happens if the 'mask' doesn't fall off?
Keep that precious head in the sand when you're pushing a wheelbarrow of dollars to the store to buy bread to take back to your tent in Nickelsville.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Get ready for the rapings ye gun control supporters ... it's best to to try to relax as it's happening -
WASHINGTON/ COLOMBEY-LES-DEUX-EGLISES, France (Reuters) - The IMF warned Saturday evening that the global financial system was on the brink of meltdown ...
REYJKAVIK (Daily Telegraph) -
On the streets of Reykjavik, citizens are concerned about their own increasingly dire situation. Iceland is, today, officially bankrupt.
Yesterday, one of the nation's few daily national newspapers announced it was shutting its doors, while the country's flag-carrying airline, Icelandair, said it was suspending operations. No wonder the governor of the country's central bank has been sent home to rest by his doctors.
And without a viable currency the banks can't be rescued, there is no cash to pay for essential imports, and no way of controlling inflation. The result is one with which Zimbabwe is now becoming ever more familiar – soaring prices, a big increase in unemployment and terrible hardship for most of the population.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 07:36 PM
This Democrat doesn't think its a myth.
Posted by: nevets | October 11, 2008 at 08:25 PM
we're not Iceland, ok?
Posted by: Coiler | October 11, 2008 at 08:41 PM
we're not Iceland, ok?
Zimbabwe: "We're not Lesotho!"
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Iceland: "We're not Zimbabwe!"
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United States: "We're not Iceland!"
Have you ever been raped, Coiler? I haven't, but I also have 17 guns so I'm not particularly concerned about it.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 11, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Gary you sure are obsessed with rape. Why is that?
Posted by: bennyandthejets | October 11, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Gary you sure are obsessed with rape. Why is that?
I'm not obsessed, I'm simply trying to provide a public service. I suspect many of the people who will shortly be subjected to gang-rapes and other physical assaults in a few weeks after System Collapse occurs will undergo extreme mental anguish prior to starving to death. They'd be well cautioned to steel themselves in advance. If their personal ethos precludes them from purchasing a firearm, that's fine, but in that case they'd simply be well advised to stock up on various personal lubricants.
I'm really not trying to be graphic, and I apologize if this is, I simply think it's best to talk about it before it happens than spend time comisserating after the fact because one wasn't prepared.
Posted by: Gay Gary | October 12, 2008 at 12:01 AM
I liked the old gary, I wonder if he is still with OB, he never mentions his husband anymore.
Posted by: Coiler | October 12, 2008 at 12:40 AM
I'm sure gg is really duh'f. There's just something similar about their articulation of things. Duh'f always was trying to be someone else. Maybe he's finally succeeded.
Rozskat told us about his professor who saw this coming years and years ago. What took you so long, Gary?
When the vigilantes start roaming the streets, I wonder how they're going to handle you guys? Might be time to make that move to Russia. Or, if you like rape so much, perhaps Iceland will be ahead of the curve and you could go there.
I don't think most of us would miss you too much.
Posted by: joanie | October 12, 2008 at 01:09 AM
'Duh'f always was trying to be someone else. Maybe he's finally succeeded.'
No, joanie good try but I believe we know the one's pretending to be someone else and those who are also posting as me. For the most part I'm trying to stay away and let you all discuss amongst yourselves. Can't you ignore me also? As I've stated I'm ready to move on under a new Obama administration...let's all pray for success. Peace out.
[gg: I 'somewhat' agree with you, in that you can trust that I am well stocked with ammo (of all sorts) ]
Posted by: Duffman | October 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM
I love the savage nation show, and I think its great that people are speaking against this communist Nazi president, (who was only elected because of his color). I 100% agree with Savage's lack of kissing PC behind and speaking up about what is on everyone one else mind. If you don't have a green card or current VISA... GET THE H*LL OUT!!! Your not wanted here and you have nothing positive to contribute to this country.
Posted by: Louis | December 16, 2009 at 07:37 PM
Yes, Savage's overt promotion of bombing the mosque's in the U.S. to kill all of the Islamic terrorists is good for this country. Savage only exists because he hides behind the First Amendment. It's hypocritical of him to talk about our brave troops, when he himself was dodging the draft to study home-grown marijuana absorption in NYC.
Posted by: Blatherguard | December 16, 2009 at 08:46 PM
Well i don't support draft dodgers or marijuana users (even for medicine), but i do support anyone that speaks against this regime of a presidency and his propaganda news teams. Do yourselves a favor; watch FOX and listen to talk radio.
Posted by: Louis | December 17, 2009 at 08:12 AM
No, since I am a proud American, and know that one of my most important civic duties is to expose political fraud, I'll continue to shine the bright lights on the dripping Newscorp faucet. Fox News is nothing more than a waste discharge pipe/media arm of the ultra-right wingnut fringe, masquerading as a legitimate media. They have been caught manufacturing so many falsehoods and rumors, and telling their followers it's "news", they have no credibility. They have been exposed as they promoted and supported political gatherings- something any true "news source" would never do. It's an aversion to a true democracy, and the cons that love Fox and Savage and Hannity and O'Reilly, and Beck, and Ingraham, and Malkin have done enough damage to our Constitution already.
Posted by: Drew | December 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Drew, is it safe to suspect that you consider MSNBC as a legitimate source for news?
Posted by: chucks | December 17, 2009 at 10:23 AM
No, it's not chux.
Posted by: Drew | December 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Right as opposed to the Libs who defend the Constitution by letting f@gs get married, killing babies, giving rights to terrorists; oh and lets not forget about taking money from wealthy CEOs that earned it, and giving it to Mrs. Sanchez to feed her 7 brat kids, that she should have never had in the first place because she knew she was too poor to support them when medicaid had to pay for the first one.
Posted by: Louis | December 19, 2009 at 05:13 AM