Open thread: how did olde john mccain do?

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[sparky]

McCain says that Palin "worked with her nose." What does that mean?

[Brad]

God I hope he's not Preznit. I couldn't take "Warshington" and "Pundints" for 4 years. And Palin says Nuke-you-lur.

Sigh.

[dana]

He does drone on; for all I know, he's still doing it. I got so antsy listening to him mouth generalities and pat himself on the back for being a POW (a remarkable achievement, btw, since he can't lift his arms) that I started watching an old X-File I DVR's. It made a lot more sense.

[Puget Sound]

Gee, in a 45 plus minute speech he makes a miscue or two on the pronunciations. That's all you took out of it? Jeez, have a little class. No wonder you get your tails waxed every four years.

Well here is a good takeaway: "...and for all you bad teachers we'll be happy to retrain you into another occupation."

It was a good honest speech. A humble speech. You can tell that he is more comfortable doing stuff than talking. He talked a lot about personal failure.

I was struck by the very real accomplishments of Cindy McCain. A masters from USC in Special Education, years of teaching poor children, the work overseas heading up medical missions.
Compares well to an attorney working for a large corporation.

I loved those Code Pink types. They like to stand out in front of Walter Reed Hospital and taunt the wounded soldiers 'hey, was it worth your leg to go to Iraq'
Real classy folk. Wonder who from MS-DNC gave 'em passes to get in...
But all they do is further energize people. Code Pink probably raised an additional million for McCain tonight.

[Coiler]

Obama raised 10 million this week

[Duffman]

Gov Palin appealed to me in last night's speech as someone who is genuinely concerned about this country, as opposed to the typical politician who sometimes seems more concerned about CYA instead of the USA.
I'm trying to become a fan of McCain...but I'll tell you I'd vote for this woman in a heartbeat! :)

[Vera Smalls]

He's a creepy old man.

[Coiler]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-04-community_N.htm?POE=click-refer

Some of the loudest roars at the Republican convention this week came when vice presidential pick Sarah Palin and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani made fun of Democrat Barack Obama's experience as a community organizer. Hours later, the Obama campaign started raising money off the jokes.

This is the kind of help we need from shabby old politicians.

[Puget Sound]

Duff
Independents are going for Palin.
Check the latest polls.

As Duff the disaffected Hillary supporter and Independents go, so goes the race.

[Puget Sound]

maybe a little more flop sweat on our friends across the aisle. and again, thank you code pink.

As Duff Goes...

[Puget Sound]

check out number 8 for perception of media bias.
thank you MS-DNC.

[Coiler]

Duff-Shill was never a Hillary supporter, get it? Code Pink wasn't taunting wounded soldiers, just idiot politicians who wound easily when confronted. You guys are not going to get a free ride out of this, so show some conservative backbone and buck up.

[Puget Sound]

actually, the people at code pink have a track record of standing out in front of walter reed hospital and taunting wounded solders.
no doubt like their parents liked to stand at the airport to spit on servicemen coming home from viet nam.

same element, different generation.

[sparky]

Hillary speaks:

The two party conventions showcased vastly different directions for our country. Senator Obama and Senator Biden offered the new ideas and positive change America needs and deserves after eight years of failed Republican leadership. Senator McCain and Governor Palin do not.

After listening to all the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families, provide quality affordable health care for all Americans, guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, restore our nation's leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces. So, to slightly amend my comments from Denver: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN.

[chucks]

I am really liking our chances now. There is no way that I would have believed 6 months ago that we had any shot in hell of winning the presidentcy back for the next 4, 8 or 12 years. Hell, I was almost dumb enough to go for Obambam for a short while.
McCain did better than expected tonight. Not great, but did not screw up.
Thanks to old Howard Dean for his manuvering, Nan Peelosi and that ding bat, Dirty Harry Reid and the corrupt way Obambam supporters handled the caucuses, we are up against an empty, and probably corrupt Chicago politician with zero experiance and credibility.
The heart of America will not vote for him.
You lose.
Next.
Bonus!!! Our base is fired up. Maybe we can just rid our selves of Gregoire at the same time.

[sparky]

According to Nicole Wallace of the McCain campaign, the American people don't care whether Sarah Palin can answer specific questions about foreign and domestic policy. According to Wallace, the American people will learn all they need to know (and all they deserve to know) from Palin's scripted speeches and choreographed appearances on the campaign trail and in campaign ads.

oh this will be good...

[Bantu]

They liked her betterthan him. he's cooked. What an old stumblebum. He is about the past and how he was a maverick. Maybe in 2012, Sarah will be ready. This year is over for Republicans. Sad for me, but I really had my doubts about McCain and his age.

[Puget Sound]

interesting that it is fairly obvious that Hillary Clinton will be the happiest lady in America if McCain wins. to pretend otherwise is pure poppycock.
you know it, i know it, and eveyone else with an iq over room temperature knows it. so lets cut the crap.
the Clintons want Obama to lose.

[Gig Young]

What a disappointing speech. I was hoping he'd close the deal tonight.

[Coiler]

We have DailyKos They are trying to make it a $20 million by morning for Obama. I just heard the mc cain camp is not letting the press meet with Palin anymore during the campaign except for scripted speeches. Someone needs to tell them how out of touch they are with reality. The press will shit all over them. How can she stand up to our boy JB?

[Puget Sound]

Coils, good luck with it. has ANYTHING come out to be true from you in regards to Palin.

[Farnigan]

You couldn't pay me to vote for Obama, but this speech stinks! He had an opportunity here, but it is well past blown. Not that it matters at this point, but whoever chose the screens, wrote the speech and set the stage should be fired.

[Coiler]

That she attended 5 colleges in 6 years?

[Jobim]

He didn't say much that looked like he was excited about except his war memories. Very lackluster, he showed his age, I thought. My wife finally made up her mind tonight to vote for Obama. I'm trying to give Mr. McCain more chances but you can't vote in a president because you like his vice president as a person. I didn't like all the hype with Obama, but it is a more convincing than Mr. McCain's hype.

[sparky]

First you tell me how I feel, then you tell me what I know, Puts.
Interesting.

yes, how will she debate Joe Biden if she is not allowed to speak to the media.

[Coiler]

I think they are scared to let her, this is typical of McCain and his aversion to stories in the press he doesn't like. He has a history of this in Arizona. How can he snub the national press this way? They will eat him alive.

[Ben]

This was in the New York Times tonight"On Wednesday night, the CBS anchor (Katie Couric) asked Senator John McCain’s wife, Cindy, about her views on abortion, and discovered that Mrs. McCain, usually so impenetrably poised and well prepared, had difficulty describing her husband’s position on Roe v. Wade, or her own. (She said he did not want to overturn it, until Ms. Couric assured her that he did oppose Roe v. Wade. Mrs. McCain, looking a bit confused, then said she, too, wanted the legality of abortion to be determined by individual states.)

[Bantu]

Someone on MSNBC said tonight demonizing the press was like eating sugar, there's a short-term high with the voters, but in the end, you pay for it. McCain is said to be very angry at his former "base."

[joanie]

Unbelievable. When your philosophy and worldview has wrecked an economy, destroyed 60 years of global goodwill, started a useless war that has cost thousands of American lives, run up a trillion dollars in debt, made the dollar an also-ran in world markets, shipped a good chunk of the post-WW2 Middle Class to China, indebted your nation to Communists and Islamic Militants, turned an efficient government into one that can't even collect drowned bodies of its own citizens off battered streets...and you have zero left but tired, divisive ideas that will do NOTHING to get us out of this mess.........what do you do when you stand up in front of an angry country expecting answers from you?........

BLAME THE 'LIBERALS'.

Yeah, it was those damned liberals, wasn't it....????

Randi Rhodes

Says it all.

[joanie]

And since none of you have any ideas that you can post responding to the issues she raises, let the personal attacks being...

[nevets]

Wrecked an economy? Recession? Where?

60 years global goodwill? Didn't Hussein say that foreigners want to come to the US. That takes out both 1 and 2.

Useless war? Saved countless thousands of American lives.

Dollar an also-ran? Hmm, seems like its doing good to me. Oil is down, Euro is falling.

drowned bodies,off battered streets...? Didn't the Coast Guard rescue over 33,000 from their roofs during Katrina.

Joanie, why do you listen to her. She is a nutjob who hates, hates, and hates. Now get on that pickett line and demand more from your government.

[nevets]

As for McCains speech, excellent. How can anybody vote for Hussein after listening to him tonight. Made Hussein look like a second grader playing hop-scotch.

Sparky, Scripted Speeches? Is that like Husseins greek columns.

Is it true that Palin had 38 million viewers yesterday. The same total as Husseins historic American I cant Promise Acceptance Speech.

[Coiler]

She has a shitty resume steven. She'll need more than sarcasm and false talking points to get her through.

[Duffman]

The post above, shown as posted by me at 08:52 PM last nite (I was sound asleep) was not me per se.
This is a post that I made on SP Duffman Post Copied #14 at 05:53 AM yesterday.
Someone (gee, I wonder WHO?) has obviously copied it over here.

[Puget Sound]

Duff
Hey, I still recall the time when you were on your extended vacation a few months ago.
Someone posted under 'Coiler's' name a typical Coiler post.
Sparky immediately came on and said someone -namely your- was posting under Coiler's handle.
I then asked Sparky how in the heck she would know that it wasn't a true Coiler posting.
It got very quiet for awhile.
If you want a laaugh, I can pull up that little exchange.

[Duffman]

It's just very interesting that on the one hand I'm discounted as having irrelevant posts, yet obviously someone is concerned enough about them to sneakily and slyly copy them over like that. A very chicken**** thing to do. How 'bout it Bla'M, do you think that's Okay? Very odd?

[Puget Sound]

Duffman
Try not to laugh too much but you were the object of their attention the entire time you went on vacation back in June.
Here is a sample:

"Duffman must be back from his "trip."
And, he must be bored.

Posted by: sparky ( not the imitator) | June 24, 2008 at 09:15 PM

Well, notice he posted as coiler, called YOU a racist, but then he posted as ME, supposedly angry about it. He cant even keep his own little amusing story straight.

what a maroon.

Posted by: sparky | June 24, 2008 at 09:36 PM

Uhh Sparky

How would you know 'he' posted as Coiler?
I mean, you would know if someone posted under the name of Sparky but how would you be so quick -within 6 minutes- to know that someone was posting under Coiler's name? Yeah, in the post Coiler took a shot at Joanie but the rest of the posting was pure Coiler.

Not making an accusation just curious how you could know a third party was using Coiler's name.

People wonder.

Posted by: Puget Sound | June 24, 2008 at 10:04 PM

[Duffman]

Wow! thx puts.

[Puget Sound]

Very few will give Palin credit for her poise during the speech even with a faulty teleprompter.

When Obama had teleprompter issues it got real ugly real fast. Little said about that. Imagine if that had happened to the lady Sarah Palin.

Obama-ooops, uh, stammer

[Habu]

Appears Ms Palin's viewers exceeded obama's. Approx 40 million-Palin 38 million obama.

Comments that Ms. Palin requires scripted speeches-obama cant stutter his way through a hello without a prompter. Sarah's prompter malfunctioned and she never missed a beat.

It his reported that obama's management skills have resulted in his campaigne lacking cash. Those who write of large infusions wax similiar to hillary reporting how well her campaigne was being supported-by her. She is $10 million in debt and obama wont help her clear the debt. Cant say that I fault him.

We know McCain will receive three votes-the clintons.

The smell of liberal desperation is in the air.

[Puget Sound]

Wonder when Oprah will invite Sarah Palin on her show like she did with Obama?
The answer: Never. At least for now.
Don't you think her audience would want to see the first female member of the presidential ticket?
Someone like Sarah Palin capable of drawing 40 million people on her show would seem to make for a good show with a very interesting guest with a lot of appeal.

Won't happen. Might cost Obama votes.

The flop sweat is building. We have a good horse race during a time when the Dems should have -could have with Hillary- walked away with it.
Thank you Dem Strategist -Did Bob Shrum make this call_- . Thank you. Thank you.

[Duffman]

Puts: apparently This and Oprah's rejection of Gov Palin will be the attempt to curtail the effect the good Governor is potentially having.

[nevets]

C'mon Puts. Sparky has said several times that she has access to the IP record.

I was at the Bowling Alley yesterday, and guess what. McCain was on the tube and people were ten deep watching. Needless to say, it was a long night bowling.

Can the Liberals now say that their "Minimun Wage Increase" was bad for the economy. Since this bill went into effect, unemployment has skyrocketed to 6%. How could anyone vote for this party of imbeciles who have increased prices across the board since they came into control of both Houses of Congress. Do the research, look at what prices were before Jan. 07 and then compare them to today.

[nevets]

And McCain didn't need an elaborate eliitist stage setting of Greek pillars to draw over 50 million viewers to his acceptance speech yesterday. GO USA, GO USA, GO USA.

[sparky]

I can't see your IP address...what I said was I could find out. Thinking I could click a button to do so is just in your dreams.

Puts are you so totally without something of interest to say that you have to back months and months to drag something out so you can say NEENER NEENER!!! ?? Do you keep an annotated roladex on what everyone says?? Why cant you follow chuck's example and disagree with a little humor?

You and Duffman are obsessed with who is posting here. I knew it was not coiler posting because he was sitting right beside me...anytime a new name pops up Duffman immediately retorts by putting their "name" in quotations. It is so disrespectful to a new person and its no wonder they dont stick around.
Why dont you guys just talk about an issue, disagree if you want but respect the disagreements and be done with it?

[Duffman]

I care only when someone is posting as me...that's just plain chicken****; otherwise I could care less. And, I don't think it was 'I' who drove Gay Gary away. OMG you mention the word 'disrespectful' with all that you've posted...that's just too funny.

[Duffman]

This should be a good election to see if in fact it's all About the $MONEY?? ???

[Duffman]

With all due respect Bla'M, I would suggest you remove the previous post.

[Puget Sound]

Blam
You should remove that posting about Wilbur.
Not your fault that someone posted but please take it down.
That isn't about free speech. That is about harassment.

[Puget Sound]

Frankly I post with humor 90 percent of the time.
Just blessed with a great sense of memory recall.
60 days away isn't too hard especially since it related to Duff. The posting begged the question. Sorry it so close to home.
And it was funny. Right Duff?
Didn't realize you and Coiler sit next to each other.
Could 'critter' be far away?