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nevets

Anyone notice if B'lam is starting to feel depressed and giving stuff away? When one starts to "crave the taste of gun oil", one might be actually crying out for help. And is Eliose one of the "Raging Grannys"?

sarge

Bl'am may be crying for help, or at least just crying. I know where he is coming from. Maybe we should start a Dori Monson listener support group to prevent any further personal tragedies around his incessant blathering.

mark

Let us hope that Whori's incessant shilling won't drive Bla'M to firearm fellatio.

I have heard fewer people on air that are more full of crap than FRC's Tony Perkins. Last year Hardball's Chris Matthews had him pinned on WMD's in Iraq- Tony said that Mossad agents had the proof. Chris asked who- let's talk to these guys! Tony folded. I wish Chris would have gutted him like the bottomfeeder he (Tony) is.

Fremont

Obviously, nev', you have no idea who the left-leaning Raging Grannies are...

Joe

So Steve Scher ends Weekday by saying, in rather a strange (puzzled and frustrated?) tone, that "Ken Vincent abruptly quit last Friday" and then launches into the usual "he did this and that and we'll miss him". As soon as I can I jump to Blatherwatch looking for the real scoop and find.... nothing?

wutitiz

There is nothing more tedious and played out than cries of hypocrisy against the O'Reilly's, Bennetts, and Gingrich'es (all big gov't conservatives, BTW who should be loved, not hated, by libs). There's no shortage of hypocrisy on either side. The biggest hypocrite of all was Bill Clinton, who signed into law in 1994 changes that allowed investigation of prior sexual behavior in sex harassment cases, then cried 'witchhunt' when Starr used it against him. Since the law was a moneymaking tool for the Dem's biggest contributors, the trial lawyers, they never sought to repeal it, just to attack Starr for using it.
And what is it with the lib obsession w/ the sex lives of opponents. Clinton and maybe Barney Frank are the only top Dems I can think of who have been hounded over sex. The list of conservatives who have been hounded is interminable: Clarence Thomas, Gingrich, Livingston, Packwood, Hyde, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc. There are double and triple layers of hypocrisy here.
Hyprocrisy charges are a dime a dozen. They end up as pointless, since both sides always are subject to them in abundance.

sparky

And which party is boinkin' congressional pages? Which party invites Jeff-Boi Gannon to the White House numerous times? Which party is supported by clergy who cannot come out of the closet?

We don't care about people's sex lives until they stand up and say that we all should live our lives by a high moral code, when they can't even keep it in their pants. We don't care about their sex lives until they point the finger at Bill Clinton--who did a terrible thing and lied about it--while poking their mistresses, or even cheat on their mistresses with another mistress ( Guiliani).
We don't care about their sex lives until they try to pass legislation that determines how people live their personal lives in private.

Please, no lectures from the Right on morality. It makes us giggle.

nevets

Thats Coiler making you giggle Sparky.

sparky

Oh you caught me again Steven.

wutitiz

Sparky: Re "we don't care about their sex lives until they try to pas legislation that determines how people live their personal lives in private." Does that include the Seattle mayor & city council, who have turned hooker stings & stings on topless dance clubs into something of a cottage industry? And in turn all the Seattle libs who put them into office? I knew several of the Ricks dancers who were busted in a major sting by SPD last December. They weren't giggling about it. Like I said, plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.

sparky

I thought prostitution was against the law..and what does that have to do with what I wrote?

wutitiz

Yes, against the law, i.e. legislation, specifically, 'legislation that determines how people live their personal lives in private.'

I don't get it Sparky. Surely you don't mean that you object to those who 'try to pass legislation' but once it's passed and being enforced, you don't have a problem.

sparky

Hey, if you want to hang out at the Boom Boom room with yer gal pals, its fine with me. Really.

nevets

"Boom Boom room" Sounds like our Sparky is very familiar with strip clubs.

joanie for nevetS

wutitiz: There is nothing more tedious and played out than cries of hypocrisy against the O'Reilly's, Bennetts, and Gingrich'es (all big gov't conservatives, BTW who should be loved, not hated, by libs). There's no shortage of hypocrisy on either side. The biggest hypocrite of all was Bill Clinton. . . .

What's up with you? Nothing is more tedious than the continuing cry of hypocrisy against a former president who's been out of office for seven years and who was impeached for a little office play with a woman at the age of consent.

And other than Clinton, you named not one other Dem.

And as for Seattle PD's and the mayor's prudish little gotchas, well, as Sparky said, there are laws about that sort of thing . . . change 'em if you don't like them. I know a lot of liberals that would be working with you even if you are a conservative.

And big gov? Yes, if for corporations and the top 1% income . . . so, now we know that conservatives like big gov as long as it subsidizes the rich. Haven't we always known that about Republicans? It is always about money . . .

joanie

sorry, nevets, not for you - forgot to change back my name.

J

One should worry more about the religious, fanatical likes of the evangacrazies: Dobson,Bauer,Colson,Blackwell,
Weyrich,Perkins,Baehr, and
Judge Robert Bork, Phyllis Schlafly, Ollie North, they are all very good friends with another evangacrazy, Eric Prince who started Blackwater, the first private mercenary company for hire in this country. If you want to learn about Blackwater and its Christian background get the book, Blackwater....it will provide an indepth look at a company ready to take over for some of our US military ops. Maybe sooner than later since Bush/Cheney are destroying our military with their war for oil. Combine a mercenary army with a heavy,heavy dose of religion and this country will look like Iran.....

nevets

Thats ok Joanie. And being an American citizen is all I want to be to answer your previous question on another thread. Our Constitution and Country may not be perfect and has had many bad moments in its 200+ years but nothing compares to what the Nazis did during the 30's and early 40's under a cruel and inhumane mentally ill guy named Hitler.

nevets

And how many years will we have to wait for that to happen J? 5, 10, 25? War for oil, thats a Randi bit right. Leave that crap on AA will it belongs.

J

nevets, Read the book,
American Theocracy "Oil,God,and Debt" by Kevin Phillips, the author help create the Sunbelt States in politics,and he was a republican strategist for over 35 years, very close to Reagan and knows the old GOP inside out and is showing how religion, politics and oil don't mix and is tearing this country apart for future generations. Then read Blackwater.
Someday, its possible blogs like these will dissappear, maybe 5, 10, or even 25 years and most of us will still be around. As for AA
I practice my 12 steps every day and KIRO is included in those steps along with other progressive blogs.........

joanie

Jeffrey Scahill(skahill?) right? Steven, you ought to read it. I don't understand why you diss Randi when don't know if she's right or wrong. Is that the American way that you believe in? No responsibility to know the facts?

Steven, I just don't get that. Screw Randi . . . you can find the facts other places. Do you care about them? Instead of attacking J, why not show him how he is wrong? Can you?

Finally, would you take up arms against your own countrymen if your commander in chief dictated you to?

joanie

I'm going to link Amazon for you . . . check out the book: "Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army"

At least click on the link . . . you never know. :)

joanie

Steven, if you go to Amazon, click on the book and read the introduction. You have nothing to lose. I'd like to know what you think.

J

I also have great respect for John Dean,
(Nixon's legal Counsel) his book, Conservatives without a Conscience
talks about the Goldwater Republicans who didnt give a rats
patootee about what went on in the bedroom and he believed in limited government, but then religion started creepin into the GOP and here we are today a nation twisted apart by theocons and neocons. This country was formed by libs ,progressive minded people, Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Washington Mason, Payne, not loyalists to the king, other wise the Union Jack would still be a flyin and we'd be singing God Save the King and just a thought, didn't people flee Britain because of religious persecution a way way back? Oh and I didnt feel attacked, I chuckle for I didnt think it would provoke such a response, since Im just a girl....

joanie

Ah, nice to have another intellectually savvy woman on the board.

J

Ditto! ;-)

Steve J.

The biggest hypocrite of all was Bill Clinton, who signed into law in 1994 changes that allowed investigation of prior sexual behavior in sex harassment cases, then cried 'witchhunt' when Starr used it against him.

Starr was hired to investigate Whitewater. The Pillsbury Report of 12/1995 vindicated the Clintons.

joanie

Over $40 million for a Pillsbury Report? Another expensive goodie from the conservative bakery.

Steve J.

Joanie,

The Pillsbury Report cost $4 million.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/gen/resources/infocus/whitewater/rtc.html

joanie

Thanks Steve J. I guess I don't know what the Pillsbury Report is - I thought you were joking and calling Starr the Pillsbury Doughboy. The figure I quoted came from here: "Starr commenced his investigation of Whitewater and related matters in August 1994. Since then, he has spent $39.2 million probing Whitewater and President Clinton's affair with Lewinsky. Before Starr's appointment, a special counsel appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno had spent $6 million on a probe of Whitewater."

I wasn't able to link the CNN report from your address. Can you hot link it? Thanks.

mada

nevets, get back in bed. I am getting cold, dear.

madA

Steve J.

Joanie, here's the URL:

http://tinyurl.com/22c3hz


OnYawn

Goodbye duffman & good riddance!

wutitiz

Joanie: Yes, the charge of hypocrisy against Clinton is tedious. That was my whole point and why I brought it up as an example. So thanks, I think, for your agreement. Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

Your suggestion that if I don't like the law, change it, misses the point. My point is that for the progressive city of Seattle to do this is hypocrisy. Also, there is nothing in the law that requires police to run the thousands of sex stings per year that they do. No one who supports this, and evidently most Seattlites do, has any business complaining about Comstocks on the right. Just asking for a little consistency of thought.

I don't live in Seattle, but in any case, these sex laws aren't going anywhere. Several years ago a Tom Carr-backed prostitution crackdown ordinance came before the council. It passed 8-1, if I remember. (It may have been 8-0, with McIver abstaining).

wutitiz

Steve J: Starr also investigated the Paula Jones case. Clinton settled with Jones for $800,000. Not that this matters--I only wanted to mention that Clinton signed into law the rules of evidence permitting fishing expeditions in harassment cases (that was how Monica got pulled into the case).

nevets

Joanie, I think the book is nothing but a liberaly biased work with a lot of un-named sources and narrowly based facts to sell a book. Not something I would waste my time reading let alone spending my money on. Next time I go to Barnes and Noble I'll check it out a bit to see if I am right. But after reading 40 or so reviews for the book at Amazon I think I hit the nail on the head.

nevets

Also Joanie, are you talking about a "Civil War" like with Lincoln or something along the lines of what Randi said that Nixon did during the Kent State shootings?

Barnes and Noble floor manager

WE do not allow skinflints or 'ne'er- do-wells' to come by our stores "checking it out a bit". If you don't have the frogskins to purchase one of our products, please move along to the public library.

Duffman

Hate to disappoint you (& others) onyawn but last nite's post that I was selling my business and moving to Ecuador was yet another imposter. This apparently got recognized as such and removed and I thank you for that. So just calm down there onyawn and quit your celebrating. :o)

nevets

Then why have all them nice comfortable chairs?

sparky

Hey Floor Manager, dont send your ne'er do wells to my library! Those who do not put things away will have it marked against them.

nevets

Subject: A little terrorist humor


European Heighten Threat Levels

The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist
threats and have raised their security level from "Miffed" to
"Peeved". Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross". Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz began in 1940 and tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance". The last time the British issued "A Bloody Nuisance" warning level was during the great fire of 1666.

Also, the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide". The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

It's not only the English and French who are on a heightened level of alert. Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout loudly and excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."

The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful
Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbor" and "Lose".

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

joanie

Steven: what Randi said that Nixon did during the Kent State shootings?

Can you link where she said that? Are you sure she said that or did someone tell you she said that? Actually, I don't know much about her saying that or what really happened even.

What do you know about it?

Civil War? I haven't heard of any states that want to secede. Have you? But, I sure have read, heard and seen newscasts about Bush issuing hundreds more executive orders than any other president. I did read that Bush recently gave himself even more power: "New presidential directive gives Bush dictatorial power"

So, you trust that he won't use it. Right? Or is it okay with you that he uses it any way he wishes?

I think you are very trusting, Steven. Our country is falling down around us and yet you trust the man who is ultimately responsible to command and govern wisely. I just don't get it. Sorry.

coiler

Is the Randi Rhodes thing still being brought up? yawwnn!

joanie

Well, they can't knock the message so they have to shoot the messenger. What d'ya do?

nevets

Yeah Joanie, I read about that awhile back after hearing Randi spread the fear about it. But did you know this was just an update to what Clinton had in place and many other Presidents before him to ensure the Continuity in Government in case of a catastophic event. And yes Randi did say that. It was around the anniversary of the shootings. I don't make things up like Sparky does.

nevets

Oh, I didnt say there was a Civil War around the corner, I was just asking you to clarify your question.

nevets

Joanie says,

"Our country is falling down around us and yet you trust the man who is ultimately responsible to command and govern wisely."

You say this but yet you are not in Canada. Why?

joanie

"Cause I'm tough, just like you. Maybe tougher. And more cantankerous definitely. :)

joanie

Then, Steven, why does it say "...literally gives the White House unprecedented dictatorial power over the government and the country, bypassing the US Congress and obliterating the separation of powers."

"Unprecedented" means nothing similar before . . .

Where did you read that it was just continuing protocol? I hope you answer, Steven.

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